I am interested in installing a de-googled android on my phone, but I would like to try it out a little bit first. Is there some way to emulate a phone on my PC, or is there anything like dual booting on phones?
If your bootloader is unlocked, you can fastboot boot an image and that will only run in memory the one time, however, it will share a data partition (apps, preferences, etc) so it might not behave as well as a native install would have.
It’s relatively easily possible to emulate android on your PC. Install “android studio”, which then allows you to create android virtual devices. However, I don’t know how to get custom system images on there, this could be more work, which you’ll have to find out yourself.
Sadly that isn’t so simple for grapheneOS, at the point your only option is compiling it yourself which I forgot exactly how much space you need but it was in the ball park of like 200-250Gb
This really is the 1 thing stopping me from switching over now. I got a google pixel only a few months ago and don’t want to have to completely reinstall everything AGAIN already. I wouldn’t mind if I had 2 phones so always have a working one, but having to change everything on my 1 phone right now just feels too risky.
Any data that’s on it is in a private cloud (infomaniak/filen) so that’s not the issue.
Its reinstalling everything, setting it all up, personalising it, etc.
I use this thing a lot and need it for work, so not being able to have a backup that I can use in case it takes longer than expected is a no-go for me.
My life is sadly busier than I’d like already so adding this on right now just isn’t in the list of options. Good to know tap payments don’t work with GrapheneOS means I’ll have to get a physical card again.
Yeah I completely get that, I took a week to get to a rudimentary working state and about a month to be content with my configuration with everything else going on in life.
I would recommend making a plan beforehand with what you’ll need to do and then starting on a Friday and battle-proofing everything till Monday if you really depend on it for work. Our life situations unfortunately usually expect us to have a fully “working” smartphone with us with like, a clock app (which GrapheneOS hasn’t pre-installed) that just works etc.
Stuff like this was incredibly annoying, because with e.g. the clock or map example, just not having a “just works” solution pre installed leads to bad situations, like an alarm not ringing when it’s supposed to and stuff like that.
But honestly, this should be easier for you than it was for me, because you already got your go-to open source Android apps– unlike me making the switch directly from iOS.
Nope. You’ll only know how good is it when you run it on the actual hardware. Yeah you can install apps on Android emulator, but what makes or breaks custom ROM is driver support on actual hardware.
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If your bootloader is unlocked, you can fastboot boot an image and that will only run in memory the one time, however, it will share a data partition (apps, preferences, etc) so it might not behave as well as a native install would have.
I’ve never really messed around with my phone beyond installing things from an alternate app store, so I doubt it is. I’ll look into that, thanks
It’s relatively easily possible to emulate android on your PC. Install “android studio”, which then allows you to create android virtual devices. However, I don’t know how to get custom system images on there, this could be more work, which you’ll have to find out yourself.
Sadly that isn’t so simple for grapheneOS, at the point your only option is compiling it yourself which I forgot exactly how much space you need but it was in the ball park of like 200-250Gb
This really is the 1 thing stopping me from switching over now. I got a google pixel only a few months ago and don’t want to have to completely reinstall everything AGAIN already. I wouldn’t mind if I had 2 phones so always have a working one, but having to change everything on my 1 phone right now just feels too risky.
Do it now rather than waiting even longer and amassing even more personal data on device
Any data that’s on it is in a private cloud (infomaniak/filen) so that’s not the issue.
Its reinstalling everything, setting it all up, personalising it, etc.
I use this thing a lot and need it for work, so not being able to have a backup that I can use in case it takes longer than expected is a no-go for me.
Just got a OEM unlocked P7P, installed GrapheneOS, I was up and running good as new in like a day. Only downside so far is no Tap payments.
It’s easier than you think.
My life is sadly busier than I’d like already so adding this on right now just isn’t in the list of options. Good to know tap payments don’t work with GrapheneOS means I’ll have to get a physical card again.
Yeah I completely get that, I took a week to get to a rudimentary working state and about a month to be content with my configuration with everything else going on in life.
I would recommend making a plan beforehand with what you’ll need to do and then starting on a Friday and battle-proofing everything till Monday if you really depend on it for work. Our life situations unfortunately usually expect us to have a fully “working” smartphone with us with like, a clock app (which GrapheneOS hasn’t pre-installed) that just works etc.
Stuff like this was incredibly annoying, because with e.g. the clock or map example, just not having a “just works” solution pre installed leads to bad situations, like an alarm not ringing when it’s supposed to and stuff like that.
But honestly, this should be easier for you than it was for me, because you already got your go-to open source Android apps– unlike me making the switch directly from iOS.
The app called “Clock” (com.android.deskclock) came pre-installed on my GrapheneOS. No idea why yours didn’t have it.
What did you use as a clock app in that case?
Might make the move when I have a week off work for moving
Currently using Chrono, but looking towards moving to Clock You , because I can’t stop alarm clocks from the lock screen for whatever reason.
I don’t get your context. Why do you have to reset your phone randomly?
To install a de-googled android version
Okay. But again, for context. Why? Buy an iPhone or something lol. Google owns android, and any open source software would run like ass
I will never ever return to iPhones that was a horrible 1.5 years
Also I’m very pro [email protected] / [email protected] so totally not looking at US based alternatives
They are pretty shit lol.
Android is already open source. And third-party firmware runs just fine.
This is by design. They could make switching easy, hut they explicitly choose to make it hard so that people think twice about it.
Anti Commercial-AI license
Nope. You’ll only know how good is it when you run it on the actual hardware. Yeah you can install apps on Android emulator, but what makes or breaks custom ROM is driver support on actual hardware.
Hmm I see. Guess there’s no real way around it then.