This just fuels my reasoning for not trusting us with AI. Raising awareness is fine and all, but re-creating a lost child only for them to tell you how they died is beyond fucked up.
Now, some content creators are using artificial intelligence to recreate the likeness of these deceased or missing children, giving them “voices” to narrate the disturbing details of what happened to them.
TikTok’s guidelines say the advancement of AI “can make it more difficult to distinguish between fact and fiction, carrying both societal and individual risks,” and ask that users who share synthetic or manipulated media showing realistic scenes include a disclaimer noting that the content is not real.
Felix M. Simon, a communication researcher at the Oxford Internet Institute, said he was confident that the videos mentioned in this piece were produced using “one or several AI tools,” but could not say which software exactly.
“They appear to be created with some form of AI tools and bear some of the typical hallmarks of cheaper AI-generated videos,” such as an anime or comic-like aesthetic and polished skin, he said in an email.
Simon cautioned that the videos — which are often accompanied by dramatic or sorrowful music, or show children with scars and bloodied faces — “have the potential to re-traumatize the bereaved.”
Cory Bradford, a TikToker who has gained almost 1 million followers producing history videos, said that while he generally avoids using AI in his own posts, those who do are likely trying to boost engagement, especially on a platform where the audience skews younger.
While TikTok has removed multiple videos depicting James narrating his abduction and death in Kirkby, England, many remain available to view on YouTube.
This is fucking ghoulish.
Does this constitute psychological torture? I’m serious. This is so much eviler than what Westboro does.
Anne Frank advertising baby clothes before discussing the horrors of the Holocaust
Wow, that is amazingly inhumane.
My first thought is they’re necessarily making characters who aren’t people.
A person who has lived through the Holocaust just cannot cheerfully peddle baby clothes.
I don’t mean that it’s physically not possible because she’s dead: I mean in terms of the human psyche, a person just flat-out psychologically could not do that.
A young boy who succumbed to torture and murder psychology cannot just calmly narrate it.
So obviously, yeah, it’s quite a ghoulish and evil thing to take what used to be a person, and a figure who has been studied and mourned because of their personhood, because we can relate to them as a person, and just completely strip them of their personhood and turn them into an inhumane object.
But then that leads to me the question of, who’s watching these things, and why?
The article says they got quite a lot of views.
Is it just for shock value?
I don’t quite understand.
But then that leads to me the question of, who’s watching these things, and why? The article says they got quite a lot of views. Is it just for shock value? I don’t quite understand.
Once again the entertainment can claim to be “educational” or “informative” and piously claim it doesn’t “condone” what it’s presenting (for entertainment purposes) but “true crime” hogs will gobble it up and oink all the while anyway.
Reminds me of that Battlestar Galactica spinoff Caprica where the dad recreates his daughters life in a machine by recreating her life from her social media presence…
This is inarguably horrible but the use of AI seems irrelevant.
You could make this same thing with any animation tool. It’s the idea that’s disgusting.
Do you think AI is mentioned because it makes the article seem more up to the minute and in keeping with current tech trends?
“A man drew a disgusting picture of a horrible event using pencils and paper this week.”
If pencils and paper were actively causing a spike of worker precarity, a sudden increase in fraud and identity theft and misuse of people’s personas against their will and without their consent, I wouldn’t blame people for being upset at those fancy new pencils or paper instead of smugly telling them how actually the technology in a vacuum with no one using it is actually harmless.
So you would support government limiting an individual’s right to run software on their computer because you don’t agree with what the software outputs?
That’s absolute nonsense. The entire premise of these machine learning models is that they accept any arbitrary input, you would want to neuter that?
We need to elevate this by creating an industry for entire robots of dead relatives. That we eliminate coping and allow everyone to live in a fantasy world forever
With sufficient techbro takes about how humans are just meat computers and that consciousness is just an illusion, replacing dead people with portable chatbots seems less disturbing.
Stuart Fergus, the husband of James Bulger’s mother, said that after he reached out to one creator asking them to take down their video, he received a reply saying: “We do not intend to offend anyone. We only do these videos to make sure incidents will never happen again to anyone. Please continue to support and share my page to spread awareness.”
He really tried to take down his wife’s dead kid’s deepfake and got the creator responding “no offense, so like share and subscribe lel”
Using the likeness of another person without that person’s express permission should be a jailable offense.
They seem to be getting a pass on using copyrighted materials to feed these programs so I am doubting that we would get legislation protecting our own likenesses, or those of our loved ones. I bet you couldn’t even get lawmakers to understand what they would need to write into law. They (american lawmakers) all seem to be so up to speed on technology. /s
How the fuck does someone go from “I want to punish this person” to “lets make porn of a woman in his life who has nothing to do with it, that’ll show 'em!”??
Surely there are a million ways you can come up with to include whichever lawmaker in a deepfake that don’t include violating an unrelated woman?
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This just fuels my reasoning for not trusting us with AI. Raising awareness is fine and all, but re-creating a lost child only for them to tell you how they died is beyond fucked up.
It’s not condoning child murders (or I assume that’s the claim being made) but hogs will oink and get off to their True Crime™ misery porn anyway.
so fucked up
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Now, some content creators are using artificial intelligence to recreate the likeness of these deceased or missing children, giving them “voices” to narrate the disturbing details of what happened to them.
TikTok’s guidelines say the advancement of AI “can make it more difficult to distinguish between fact and fiction, carrying both societal and individual risks,” and ask that users who share synthetic or manipulated media showing realistic scenes include a disclaimer noting that the content is not real.
Felix M. Simon, a communication researcher at the Oxford Internet Institute, said he was confident that the videos mentioned in this piece were produced using “one or several AI tools,” but could not say which software exactly.
“They appear to be created with some form of AI tools and bear some of the typical hallmarks of cheaper AI-generated videos,” such as an anime or comic-like aesthetic and polished skin, he said in an email.
Simon cautioned that the videos — which are often accompanied by dramatic or sorrowful music, or show children with scars and bloodied faces — “have the potential to re-traumatize the bereaved.”
Cory Bradford, a TikToker who has gained almost 1 million followers producing history videos, said that while he generally avoids using AI in his own posts, those who do are likely trying to boost engagement, especially on a platform where the audience skews younger.
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This is fucking ghoulish.
Does this constitute psychological torture? I’m serious. This is so much eviler than what Westboro does.
Christ. I already hate these people.
Wow, that is amazingly inhumane.
My first thought is they’re necessarily making characters who aren’t people. A person who has lived through the Holocaust just cannot cheerfully peddle baby clothes. I don’t mean that it’s physically not possible because she’s dead: I mean in terms of the human psyche, a person just flat-out psychologically could not do that. A young boy who succumbed to torture and murder psychology cannot just calmly narrate it.
So obviously, yeah, it’s quite a ghoulish and evil thing to take what used to be a person, and a figure who has been studied and mourned because of their personhood, because we can relate to them as a person, and just completely strip them of their personhood and turn them into an inhumane object.
But then that leads to me the question of, who’s watching these things, and why? The article says they got quite a lot of views. Is it just for shock value? I don’t quite understand.
Have you met the true crime community? They would eat this stuff up.
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Once again the entertainment can claim to be “educational” or “informative” and piously claim it doesn’t “condone” what it’s presenting (for entertainment purposes) but “true crime” hogs will gobble it up and oink all the while anyway.
This feels so much like a cyberpunk story. It’s so dehumanizing and has such disregard for humanity that it feels like a perfect match for the genre.
I’m really starting to understand how old people get to a point where they no longer want to keep with the times. This is gross.
Keep summer safe
We’re ruled by billionaires that read (or more likely just watch) cyberpunk dystopia stories and say “based, I want to make that real.”
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This is some radicalizing shit right here.
Reminds me of that Battlestar Galactica spinoff Caprica where the dad recreates his daughters life in a machine by recreating her life from her social media presence…
Spoilers!
More of that asked if they could not if they should stuff
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This is inarguably horrible but the use of AI seems irrelevant. You could make this same thing with any animation tool. It’s the idea that’s disgusting.
Do you think AI is mentioned because it makes the article seem more up to the minute and in keeping with current tech trends?
“A man drew a disgusting picture of a horrible event using pencils and paper this week.”
“Pencils and paper are so awful.”
If pencils and paper were actively causing a spike of worker precarity, a sudden increase in fraud and identity theft and misuse of people’s personas against their will and without their consent, I wouldn’t blame people for being upset at those fancy new pencils or paper instead of smugly telling them how actually
the technology in a vacuum with no one using it is actually harmless.
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Why does that matter in this context?
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I don’t see the difference between doing this with AI or doing it with Photoshop. It’s horrible independently of the tools used.
Thanks. That was precisely my point. The tools used to make this are irrelevant. It’s fucked up regardless.
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So you would support government limiting an individual’s right to run software on their computer because you don’t agree with what the software outputs?
That’s absolute nonsense. The entire premise of these machine learning models is that they accept any arbitrary input, you would want to neuter that?
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Wait, what does Government tech-illiteracy have to do with this?
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I think there should be legal avenues to shut down people who do that shit.
It doesn’t matter what tools they’re using. The solution is the same regardless.
I was tired of this shit a while ago and I’m starting to outright hate it now.
Hey i know this one! Isn’t a Black mirror episode?
You will never be allowed to die.
🙂
We need to elevate this by creating an industry for entire robots of dead relatives. That we eliminate coping and allow everyone to live in a fantasy world forever
With sufficient techbro takes about how humans are just meat computers and that consciousness is just an illusion, replacing dead people with portable chatbots seems less disturbing.
He really tried to take down his wife’s dead kid’s deepfake and got the creator responding “no offense, so like share and subscribe lel”
Using the likeness of another person without that person’s express permission should be a jailable offense.
They seem to be getting a pass on using copyrighted materials to feed these programs so I am doubting that we would get legislation protecting our own likenesses, or those of our loved ones. I bet you couldn’t even get lawmakers to understand what they would need to write into law. They (american lawmakers) all seem to be so up to speed on technology. /s
Not until someone starts making clips of lawmakers narrating their own crimes and unethical behavior, then they’ll get it done immediately.
Not that I’m suggesting anyone do that…
I was thinking the same thing, or if a lawmakers granddaughter is AI’ed into some porn.
How the fuck does someone go from “I want to punish this person” to “lets make porn of a woman in his life who has nothing to do with it, that’ll show 'em!”??
Surely there are a million ways you can come up with to include whichever lawmaker in a deepfake that don’t include violating an unrelated woman?
Because that’s a news story I have already read about. This has happened to people. No need to be so sanctimonious.
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