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The Thunderbird for Android beta is out and we’re asking our community to help us test it. Beta testing helps us find critical bugs and rough edges that we can polish in the next few weeks. The more people who test the beta and ensure everything in the testing checklist works correctly, the better!
Anyone can be a beta tester! Whether you’re an experienced beta tester or you’ve never tested a beta image before, we want to make it easy for you. We are grateful for your time and energy, so we aim to make testing quick, efficient, and hopefully fun!!
The release plan is as follows, and we hope to stick to this timeline unless we encounter any major hurdles:
September 30 – First beta for Thunderbird for Android
Third week of October – first release candidate
Fourth week of October – Thunderbird for Android release
K9 didn’t have a stable release for 3 years, until a previous contributor raised enough money to sponsor his work for a year or so. (Which I was happy to donate to, because K9 was starting to get really outdated UI-wise).
After that money ran out, they started working for MZLA Corp/Thunderbird more than two years ago.
Unfortunately, this version violates the DSGVO by sending telemetry without being asked. This shoots the app directly into out. I hope that the developers have an insight here and remove this function as soon as possible.
we don’t need another mail app. they should’ve just supported FairEmail. it’s great and works flawlessly. developed by one guy who does not get enough in return. if you can, support him by buying the premium version and yourself by switching to the best android mail client.
https://email.faircode.eu/
I’ve been using it for a few days. It’s a nice app that I plan to continue using. I’m not currently a power user but it has everything I need and has performed flawlessly to this point.
The Fennec F-Droid build isn’t maintained by Mozilla, but by someone else. They link to Mozilla for donations and source code, but the issue tracker for Fennec on F-Droid links to their own repo.
K-9 Mail on F-Droid is maintained by the K9-team, which works for MZLA/Thunderbird. Thus I’d guess it shouldn’t take to much work adding Thunderbird to F-Droid.
from the page it looks like they’re working on getting the beta in fdroid though, so here’s hoping.
Been using K-9 for a time and tried Thunderbird - it feels kind of smoother and there are some visual overhauls but ended uninstalling it because it was hard for me to tell which mails were unread (and which ones not) in the main mail list while in dark mode. I guess I’m not the only one who felt that way and surely they will fix it but this also left me the sensation that there’s not much sense in switching to Thunderbird if you’re using K-9.
On 13 June 2022, it was announced that K-9 Mail had been taken over by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation with current maintainer Christian Ketterer joining the team, and plans for K-9 Mail to be rebranded as Thunderbird for Android following the completion of a feature roadmap, including sync with Thunderbird on PC, integrating Thunderbird’s automated account setup system, message filtering, and improvements to folders.
Bit of a, bit of b. It is not yet. But the final version of Thunderbird will replace K9. So if you’re not happy with the beta, write an issue in their bug tracker.
They are the same. It is the same app. They have announced that they will keep both K9 and Thunderbird in parallel, but the underlying program is the same - it will be only a cosmetic difference. This has to do with app IDs and user preferences, etc.
Here is the K9 Beta that is the same version as the new Thunderbird (beta) app. You are just switching from the beta back to the release.
*code blocks are broken and have a fairly degraded UI
*accounts and settings are hidden behind a show accounts that’s terrible to reach with one hand.
*the new sidebar is also terrible to use with one hand
*settings is also hidden behind show accounts.
these are the issues I remember off hand, I already deleted the app
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Isn’t this just rebranded K-9? What even needs testing?
Well, most all of the developpement work on k9 recently has been by mozilla.
Yes. Looking through K9’s blog, “recently” is more than two years.
K9 didn’t have a stable release for 3 years, until a previous contributor raised enough money to sponsor his work for a year or so. (Which I was happy to donate to, because K9 was starting to get really outdated UI-wise).
After that money ran out, they started working for MZLA Corp/Thunderbird more than two years ago.
The low WiFi signal in the play store screenshots is stressing me out lol
Use a DNS firewall because when you start the app it sends telemetry data to Mozilla.
What kind of telemetry data does it send to Mozilla?
Don’t know exactly I only realized when I checked my DNS queries.
Probably, your device model, ip address, timezone and so on
Unfortunately, this version violates the DSGVO by sending telemetry without being asked. This shoots the app directly into out. I hope that the developers have an insight here and remove this function as soon as possible.
What’s DSVGO?
It’s GDPR for Germans
An elaboration would be nice. GDPR applies to Germany as-is, right? So a local privacy law expanding on EU regulation?
It’s just translated. Like bread -> Brot.
Leave it to the Germans to use a longer abbreviation when GSPR is right there and we’re speaking Englisch
we don’t need another mail app. they should’ve just supported FairEmail. it’s great and works flawlessly. developed by one guy who does not get enough in return. if you can, support him by buying the premium version and yourself by switching to the best android mail client. https://email.faircode.eu/
Fairemail can still not compete with K-9, besides that the premium version cost €7,49 while K-9 is still free
I’ve been using it for a few days. It’s a nice app that I plan to continue using. I’m not currently a power user but it has everything I need and has performed flawlessly to this point.
Thank you.
i hope they’ll still over it through fdroid too.
Given that they dont offer firefox, I dont see why they would offer thunderbird
but they offer fennec, which is basically firefox without the google stuff, and k9 is already in fdroid so it’d be a shame if they pull it now.
from the page it looks like they’re working on getting the beta in fdroid though, so here’s hoping.
Thanks TIL about fennec fox
The Fennec F-Droid build isn’t maintained by Mozilla, but by someone else. They link to Mozilla for donations and source code, but the issue tracker for Fennec on F-Droid links to their own repo.
K-9 Mail on F-Droid is maintained by the K9-team, which works for MZLA/Thunderbird. Thus I’d guess it shouldn’t take to much work adding Thunderbird to F-Droid.
https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild
https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/blob/master/metadata/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid.yml
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/
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K9-Mail has been and continues to be on F-Droid, while it’s basically the same as Thunderbird Android, except for branding.
Been using K-9 for a time and tried Thunderbird - it feels kind of smoother and there are some visual overhauls but ended uninstalling it because it was hard for me to tell which mails were unread (and which ones not) in the main mail list while in dark mode. I guess I’m not the only one who felt that way and surely they will fix it but this also left me the sensation that there’s not much sense in switching to Thunderbird if you’re using K-9.
K9 is Thunderbird. You’ll be switching if you like it or not. If you want, write a bug report on the visibility issue.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-9_Mail
Bit of a, bit of b. It is not yet. But the final version of Thunderbird will replace K9. So if you’re not happy with the beta, write an issue in their bug tracker.
An old version or a fork though
Seems you didn’t even read my comment - but no, at least for the moment K-9 is not Thunderbird…
They are the same. It is the same app. They have announced that they will keep both K9 and Thunderbird in parallel, but the underlying program is the same - it will be only a cosmetic difference. This has to do with app IDs and user preferences, etc.
Here is the K9 Beta that is the same version as the new Thunderbird (beta) app. You are just switching from the beta back to the release.
Edit: sorry link was missing: https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/releases/tag/K9MAIL_8_0b1
K9 has been Thunderbird for quite a while now. The name hasn’t changed yet officially, but the team has been incorporated a good while ago.
Not sure why people are downvoting you, you’re right.
Here’s the announcement from over 2 years ago.
No way I am letting Mozilla handle my email communication.
On Android I recommend FairEmail.
When I had an Android, I used the paid version of FairMail. Very good app, would recommend to everyone.
I use the pro as well.
Try it at the other day. Not gonna lie, it seems like a total downgrade versus K9. I’ll not be upgrading.
Care to elaborate a little?
*code blocks are broken and have a fairly degraded UI *accounts and settings are hidden behind a show accounts that’s terrible to reach with one hand. *the new sidebar is also terrible to use with one hand *settings is also hidden behind show accounts.
these are the issues I remember off hand, I already deleted the app