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Don’t get me wrong. I love Aurora store. I love what they do and I donated a couple all the counts that I no longer use to them. But that does not mean I believe that this move is correct at all in any way.
Putting aside the extremely slippery slope of forcing Google to allow app stores on their store, You have actually rather significant security issues too because of the catalog.
This means any app store that is now can now download the apps, patch them with great features or malicious features and serve them as legitimate.
Security has already been such a massive headache because no matter what you do, you just can’t stop people from shooting themselves in the foot. But Android, that’s their target market and they need to do their best. And this is going to be such a massive issue. Now they did say individual apps can opt out but quite frankly I doubt many are going to unless their applications like banking apps which are almost definitely going to because attestation is extremely important for stuff like that.
Pardon me if I said anything that doesn’t make sense, I am using Speech to text.
I don’t agree with this. Anybody can send a link right to the APK or even a QR code. The Epic Game Store could have a nice button right there that says install it and boom, you’re installed and off to the races. And unless you’re doing that Samsung bullshit, it’ll just work on the vast majority of devices after you click one pop-up box.
I honestly don’t know anybody who couldn’t do that. Unless it is Samsung because Samsung does have that new bullshit.
It’s one thing because you have to know about fdroid. You have to go explicitly look for fdroid, someone and so forth. But if you’re epic and you’re trying to push people to your game store, you’re going to have it right on your front page.
Google will have to distribute rival third-party app stores within Google Play, and it must give rival third-party app stores access to the full catalog of Google Play apps, unless developers opt out individually.
what the fuck. I don’t like google, I run fully Foss, and only recently installed microG, but I don’t agree with this garbage.
It’s easy enough to install any third party appstore. I don’t agree with this at all.
*code blocks are broken and have a fairly degraded UI *accounts and settings are hidden behind a show accounts that’s terrible to reach with one hand. *the new sidebar is also terrible to use with one hand *settings is also hidden behind show accounts.
these are the issues I remember off hand, I already deleted the app
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It has a LOT of issues still, it has potential, but things like subscriptions rarely actually work for me, and when it does, it takes ages for it to work. Portrait videos don’t work.
I do like how it syncs my watch history, allows me to watch membership content. I wish it allowed me to comment natively as well as like dislikes. However the page button allows you to open the webview for the video giving access to those, not superb, but for sure not bad.
I do absolutely agree that this sucks. However, most people don’t actually need this. Yes, it’s very convenient, but I found that pretty much all banking apps, at least for people I have helped support, offer a web client anyways that’s just as good. It’s only missing things like NFC tap payment.
Of course, don’t get me wrong. A lot of solutions don’t offer web UIs, and that sucks. But we can’t force everyone to be a not shitty developer Sadly.
I also do really miss tap payments with my phone. It’s really nice just taking my phone when I go shopping and maybe $20 in cash. Not needing to worry about my car or anything else.
I highly disagree with this assessment.
First, addressing your first point. Yes, they are stopping development of some core AOSP apps, but we are talking about apps which have had very good, oftentimes way better, alternative FOSS applications anyways. I really don’t see this being an issue at all.
For the second and third part. Google can sometimes do this with their core apps. Sometimes I suppose but GAPPs works on pretty much any custom ROM I’ve ever tried it on. Whether it be open gaps or microg. If you’re talking about things like Google Play Certification and safety net, I also disagree there. It’s a tool that Google provides if application devs don’t want to use it they don’t need to. Many devs DO want it. That’s not Google’s fault.
Application developers want, and sometimes need this level of security. Regardless of what anybody says, attestation is indeed a critical part of security.
can you give a few examples of the a11y issues that don’t have at least somewhat well known alternatives that work more or less the same way?
Personally I run android completely without gapps or even aurora store, the only proprietary apps I do actually use is discord my retarded router’s only method of accsessing the settings, eero app
Out of all the people you could blame, you literally chose to blame the single least affected party here. Google has actually taken great strides to make custom ROMs as easy as humanly possible without stepping on the toes of vendors.
Google does a lot of stuff people should hate, but this is not one of them.
Do we really need to be so constantly cringy about it? Yes, custom ROMs are great. I run one. Lots of other people run one. They’re great. Don’t get me wrong. But you have to realize most people simply don’t care for one, Most vendors also don’t really support their phones well under GSI, so things like camera and stuff like that hardly ever work properly.
In a lot of cases, it is quite a bit of work to get a custom rom flashed and have it working well. The technological skill gap between most people who will run an Android phone and even enthusiasts who will so much as think about installing a custom ROM is so massive that you may as well be a hacker to them.
this would be… somewhat possible, you can’t really boot GSI images, however the folk at BlissOS do have an android generic project that makes porting custom roms to x86 a lot easier. By porting android images to generic x86, we can serve them as temporary VMs, just like https://distrosea.com/ (I’ve actually been thinking about doing something like this for bliss specifically but funding says no lol).
This is contingent on roms being ported to x86 though, off the top of my head there are images floating around for
- Bliss (Obviously)
- Lineage OS,
- Vanilla AOSP,
and specific verisons of
- Project sakura (A11 iirc)
- CarbonROM A10
- Bootleggers A10
- RessurectionRemix
- Pixel Experience
- Dirty Unicorns
- Tesla
I believe there are also images of LMODroid and Calyx floating around… somewhere
I wont say there is no jank, there is certainly a degree of it, particularly around arm apps due to needing libhoudini or libndk for arm translation (some games, not all with pick these up as “emulators” and block you or simply not work on a couple games) but generally most arm apps work fine. if you are living with a fully x86 ecosystem like myself, I have zero complaints, everything works fine and dandy. that I myself have tested. but ofc, bugs do exist and we try to help out as much as we can on the bliss telegram or matrix as it is an actively developed project.
It only really works well with 2 in 1 machines that have decentish linux support. there are specific builds for some surface devices. however if your device like mine has decent linux support, it’s pretty much a plug and play solution. Bliss uses a the android common kernel which has very little modifications to upstream kernel so typically support for hardware is simply dependant on how new the kernel is.
Bliss also relies on mesa for graphics, so intel and AMD have great support, and Nvidia is quite lack luster, but this may change with the new foss nvidia driver stuff.
I have one in a box somewhere, I should pull it out again, but I can’t get over how little storage it has