Quora tried something like this and it absolutely destroyed the site. I was on there when basically all content was unpaid, and I think it mostly worked pretty well and you could get some high quality answers. After they went paid (the Quora partner program, I think it was called), it basically turned into Yahoo! Answers both in question and answer quality. Every time I’ve visited Quora since, it kinda has the same effect as looking at those pictures of people as they use meth for longer and longer; the site just keeps getting more and more unusable in both interface and content.
If people really want to keep reddit protests going how about developing an open source repost bot which embeds your own adverts into the top comments.
Start taking control of how the “content creators” are rewarded.
This was a rumour some years back and I just remember after that I started noticing a bunch of repost bots. They even copy paste the top comment just to double dip that sweet karma sauce
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was done through cryptocurrency like Reddit’s done before.
A few years ago Reddit started to give community specific cryptocurrencies depending on how much karma the user got. I think it was only launched on the Fortnite and Cryptocurrency subreddits, and I’d say giving cryptocurrency to a community of mostly young Fortnite fans seems immoral, but not surprising for Reddit.
As a content creator who posted to Reddit since it began, the API blackout did more than drive me away from Reddit - it led me to discover the Fediverse. And it’s just so… much… better. No concerns about power tripping mods, endless pun threads, shadowbanning or obtuse rules. You interact with real people interested in what you post, not just bots and karma whores - even in the most popular threads. If a community turns sour, you just block them, and then follow the same themed community on another instance.
Reddit relied the thrill of contributing to a large audience to drive the desire to participate. This worked as long as it was the only and best game in town. Now they’ve broken that thrill by making it clear that any community that doesn’t contribute to Spez’s wallet isn’t welcome on Reddit. If this program had been in place, it might have blunted the exodus of content creators from Reddit, but trying to implement it now smacks of desperation.
Besides, Reddit isn’t profitable when their mods and contributors work for free. Expecting a power-tripping broke motherfucker to possibly pay me in the future for work I previously did for free for them is like expecting the rapture - it’s a nice thought in theory, but even if it does happen, you’re probably not gonna like how it turns out.
I don’t think this is aimed at winning us over. It’s really just them doubling down on the type of users they want to see going forward (and it’s not us).
Fuck you Spez, we ain’t going back. Beside, I’m getting used to this new federation thing. I use Kbin and it’s wonderful. Just waiting on a real mobile App and my scrolling addiction will be satisfied
Kbin is tolerable in a mobile browser, but it actually becomes quite good once you decide to use Firefox on mobile and install the Tampermonkey addon along with some community userscripts to improve the functionality. Kbin is much younger than Lemmy, so it’s just playing catch-up right now.
On PC, I very much prefer Kbin’s user interface (but still with custom userscripts and a few minor changes to the theme I use).
Yeah I feel like Kbin will be the main hub for the Great Reddit Migration. Even tho it isn’t as popular as Lemmy, as you said, it’s pretty recent and growing fast. The interface is, IMO, much more user-friendly than Lemmy tho.
But it’s a matter of taste and opinion, at the end of the day, I don’t care because I can access all the posts from both federation(?)
But kbin lets you block entire instances as a user, which is worth the tradeoff for me.
Let’s you block domains as a user. It doesn’t block the entire instance, some posts do and will still come through (as I’ve found over the weeks lol). They’ve said on the github that a feature is incoming to outright block instances, if I read correctly.
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Quora tried something like this and it absolutely destroyed the site. I was on there when basically all content was unpaid, and I think it mostly worked pretty well and you could get some high quality answers. After they went paid (the Quora partner program, I think it was called), it basically turned into Yahoo! Answers both in question and answer quality. Every time I’ve visited Quora since, it kinda has the same effect as looking at those pictures of people as they use meth for longer and longer; the site just keeps getting more and more unusable in both interface and content.
But I’m sure it’ll work out just fine for Reddit
I don’t remember Quora ever having any quality, but then I only ever went there from Google results.
Damn, I didn’t expect leaving reddit will pay off so quickly.
I was just thinking they might go this way to prove that karma is worth something. The quality of content will absolutely take a dive if they ever do.
So it’s basically a job that instead of getting paid YOU have to pay the employer to work each month but they may pay you instead some months?
If people really want to keep reddit protests going how about developing an open source repost bot which embeds your own adverts into the top comments.
Start taking control of how the “content creators” are rewarded.
So more reposts, generic jokes as top comment and click baites, because now everybody will try to make a quick buck?
Yup, exactly that
This was a rumour some years back and I just remember after that I started noticing a bunch of repost bots. They even copy paste the top comment just to double dip that sweet karma sauce
Tell me you’re desperate without telling me you’re desperate
Reddit getting desperate?
Remember Quora when they started rewarding for questions asked instead of correct answers?
First Twitter and now Quora, Reddit is learning from best out there.
Does this mean you can actually deny people money by downvoting? Well that can only go well!
Especially with vote bots.
It’s going to be mostly bots voting against each other
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was done through cryptocurrency like Reddit’s done before.
A few years ago Reddit started to give community specific cryptocurrencies depending on how much karma the user got. I think it was only launched on the Fortnite and Cryptocurrency subreddits, and I’d say giving cryptocurrency to a community of mostly young Fortnite fans seems immoral, but not surprising for Reddit.
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Too little, too late.
As a content creator who posted to Reddit since it began, the API blackout did more than drive me away from Reddit - it led me to discover the Fediverse. And it’s just so… much… better. No concerns about power tripping mods, endless pun threads, shadowbanning or obtuse rules. You interact with real people interested in what you post, not just bots and karma whores - even in the most popular threads. If a community turns sour, you just block them, and then follow the same themed community on another instance.
Reddit relied the thrill of contributing to a large audience to drive the desire to participate. This worked as long as it was the only and best game in town. Now they’ve broken that thrill by making it clear that any community that doesn’t contribute to Spez’s wallet isn’t welcome on Reddit. If this program had been in place, it might have blunted the exodus of content creators from Reddit, but trying to implement it now smacks of desperation.
Besides, Reddit isn’t profitable when their mods and contributors work for free. Expecting a power-tripping broke motherfucker to possibly pay me in the future for work I previously did for free for them is like expecting the rapture - it’s a nice thought in theory, but even if it does happen, you’re probably not gonna like how it turns out.
I don’t think this is aimed at winning us over. It’s really just them doubling down on the type of users they want to see going forward (and it’s not us).
great, doubling down on the broken karma system.
I have to say, I wasn’t expecting to see an ad for “please use Reddit, we’ll pay you!” on lemmy
In this context it feels less like an ad, and more like “hey look how desperate they’re getting”.
Fuck you Spez, we ain’t going back. Beside, I’m getting used to this new federation thing. I use Kbin and it’s wonderful. Just waiting on a real mobile App and my scrolling addiction will be satisfied
IDK about Kbin, but Lemmy is pretty solid just using a mobile web browser. I suspect Kbin might be too though, have you tried it?
Kbin is tolerable in a mobile browser, but it actually becomes quite good once you decide to use Firefox on mobile and install the Tampermonkey addon along with some community userscripts to improve the functionality. Kbin is much younger than Lemmy, so it’s just playing catch-up right now.
On PC, I very much prefer Kbin’s user interface (but still with custom userscripts and a few minor changes to the theme I use).
Yeah I feel like Kbin will be the main hub for the Great Reddit Migration. Even tho it isn’t as popular as Lemmy, as you said, it’s pretty recent and growing fast. The interface is, IMO, much more user-friendly than Lemmy tho.
But it’s a matter of taste and opinion, at the end of the day, I don’t care because I can access all the posts from both federation(?)
Lemmy is better on web than kbin.
But kbin lets you block entire instances as a user, which is worth the tradeoff for me.
There was a couple instances I just didn’t want to see and blocking them by community was like whack a mole
Let’s you block domains as a user. It doesn’t block the entire instance, some posts do and will still come through (as I’ve found over the weeks lol). They’ve said on the github that a feature is incoming to outright block instances, if I read correctly.
Edit: Sorry, codebase, not github: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/118#issuecomment-942720 ernests last comment.