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It blows my mind that Bethesda have owned id Software for over a decade and haven’t at any point got them to make a version of id Tech engine for their games.

There’s literally no reason the graphics wizards at id couldn’t make a Bethesda branch of the engine that uses similar or identical workflows to Creation but also employs all the best practices for a modern open world engine.

Like, modders have made their own Open Morrowind engine from scratch, in their spare fucking time. It runs all the same files and all the same mods work, without any of the drawbacks of the Gamebryo engine. It would be trivial for id’s engineers, with their experience and resources, to make something better. For some reason Bethesda just… keep bolting new shit to the creaking husk of their old engine.

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All about that profit

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There’s literally no reason the graphics wizards at id couldn’t make a Bethesda branch of the engine that uses similar or identical workflows to Creation but also employs all the best practices for a modern open world engine.

It’s hard to take your opinion seriously with this kind of statement. It has some real “It’s 2023, where is my flying car?” energy.

At the end of the day, it’s a lot easier to write a wishlist of game engine features than it is to actually develop said engine.

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Sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t get it.

id Tech was already an open world engine with id Tech 5, after being a regular map-based engine for id Tech 4 and the Quake engines preceding it. It was then scaled back to normal maps for id Tech 6.

They can and have made it do whatever they want. What’s missing is the will from Bethesda to pay for it.

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Fallout 4 came out in 2015. They had plenty of time to start work on a new engine since then.

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I’d argue it would be smarter to upgrade CE to meet modern standards than creating a branch of id’s software while porting all of existing Bethesda tools.

we don’t have access to the source so we can’t really say things are bolted on. it’s also possible that code is removed as it’s made obsolete.

I don’t think you would have to create an entirely new engine to support elite dangerous type of warping, or elevators even now they could make the illusion better

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