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If this one was that bad we’d hear about it.

Sorry to say this, but CP2077 was raked because it was Bethesda-levels of broken. What was oustandard for that game is entirely the norm for a whole company. It’s all relative, and for Bethesda, “entirely unplayable and broken on all levels of game” is the normal.

I can’t remember Skyrim or Fallout 4 releasing in that bad of a state and I’ve owned those games since release. Fallout 76 on the other hand… Yikes. I might also be completely wrong as years of playing with unofficial community patches may have clouded my memories. CP2077 had way more issues than just bugs at launch. Witcher 3 was buggy as well, but at least somewhat feature complete. I can kinda forgive jank in games if the product itself is compelling to me and I’m just a sucker for Bethesda-style RPGs. Will still be waiting for Starfield’s launch on GamePass before I buy it, Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 had awful writing and that’s nothing that a patch can fix.

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Random person here with …complicated feelings about Elite

Elite: Dangerous is a pretty dang good spaceship flight simulator, and it’s an incredible experience even just for the exploration and sound design, but I do want to gently warn you that most of the meat and bones of the combat and engineering isn’t well-balanced or is grindy.

that said some of the most serene and otherworldly experiences of my life were when I stayed up late, space mining or sightseeing in VR and with a HOTAS. And there is a racing community of people who gear out really fast and nimble ships and do canyon runs and stunt flights. But again, pretty high barrier of entry to doing that cool stuff, because you have to progress engineering which is grindy, and that’s on top of the game’s controls being detailed enough that it might take you a week to get your space legs.

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