This isn’t a complain about the game, neither a compliment.
It’s something personal I guess, not related to anything else, but myself, I think I just need to vent.
Maybe the game romanticize way too much the life in the year around 1900 and the thing is I just love the life how they portrait it. The game is extremely immersive and it’s hitting me hard.
Everything is so simple, there’s so much respect between people, they live camping with a simple life, everybody trying to help to survive as they can, singing at the end of nights, having profound and philosophical talking. It’s such a more human focused life.
Seeing a simple life like that and comparing to the modern world makes me feel sad. Today we have cars, cities, buildings, very few vegetation, a lot of pollution, everybody is so fixed on being clean, good looking, companies rule the world, people accepting being modern slaves in exchange of a little comfort and convenience. It’s truly a disappointment to me.
I’d exchange 20-30 years living in a world like RDR2 shows than 70-80 years in the modern world. That’s right, I’d rather die trying to hunt for food and learning how to survive in the woods than a massive boring life doing the exact same thing every single day in front of a computer.
Constantly? The respect between Dutch and Arthur, and Dutch with all of their group, it’s something we’d never genuinely feel in this society of masks.
I’m half of it. but 90h, because I stay a lot of time hearing the dialogs in the camp. Even if Dutch is such a bad person, it doesn’t invalidate the relation between the others of the group.
If you hadn’t played past chapter 2, that would explain a lot of your view. Maybe chapter 3. But finish the game and then get back to us and tell us your views then.
There are some good people in the camp, sure, but Dutch is not one of them. Neither is Arthur, no matter how you play him. Dutch is a charismatic devil with a silver tongue who makes people believe he is the good guy. Seems like he got you too.
Edit: This whole exchange comes across a lot harsher than it was meant. I understand you, Dutch is a very well written character who is fun to be around. I just found it a bit strange how you romanticized this gang of truly awful persons. But I get it, the camp feels like family. I’ve been there, I would have slaughtered a whole town to protect Tilly.
Wouldn’t say all of the gang are awful people. Some truly are (Dutch, Micah, Strauss) but others are just people trying to survive in a harsh world that rejects them for who they are, and the gang gives them the freedom to be themselves without being judged, even if they have to look the other way at some of the things the others do.
Dutch is an egomaniacal monster, and like many sociopaths he’s found a community where he can manipulate people into doing his bidding while seeming selfless and reasonable.
Arthur is a broken, violent man who follows Dutch because he’s been sold a fantasy about freedom and family that allows him to view his choices through a romantic, heroic filter. If Arthur allowed that illusion to crumble, he’d have to come to terms with all the evil he’s been a part of.
It sounds like you’re in an earlier part of the story. It’s a long game with a lot of story and character development.
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Constantly? The respect between Dutch and Arthur, and Dutch with all of their group, it’s something we’d never genuinely feel in this society of masks.
Dutch has no respect, for no one. He is a violent criminal who groomed children into becoming his personal killers.
Have you finished the game?
I’m half of it. but 90h, because I stay a lot of time hearing the dialogs in the camp. Even if Dutch is such a bad person, it doesn’t invalidate the relation between the others of the group.
I advice to stop reading responses here and finish it due to spoilers.
If you hadn’t played past chapter 2, that would explain a lot of your view. Maybe chapter 3. But finish the game and then get back to us and tell us your views then.
There are some good people in the camp, sure, but Dutch is not one of them. Neither is Arthur, no matter how you play him. Dutch is a charismatic devil with a silver tongue who makes people believe he is the good guy. Seems like he got you too.
Edit: This whole exchange comes across a lot harsher than it was meant. I understand you, Dutch is a very well written character who is fun to be around. I just found it a bit strange how you romanticized this gang of truly awful persons. But I get it, the camp feels like family. I’ve been there, I would have slaughtered a whole town to protect Tilly.
Wouldn’t say all of the gang are awful people. Some truly are (Dutch, Micah, Strauss) but others are just people trying to survive in a harsh world that rejects them for who they are, and the gang gives them the freedom to be themselves without being judged, even if they have to look the other way at some of the things the others do.
Dutch is an egomaniacal monster, and like many sociopaths he’s found a community where he can manipulate people into doing his bidding while seeming selfless and reasonable.
Arthur is a broken, violent man who follows Dutch because he’s been sold a fantasy about freedom and family that allows him to view his choices through a romantic, heroic filter. If Arthur allowed that illusion to crumble, he’d have to come to terms with all the evil he’s been a part of.
It sounds like you’re in an earlier part of the story. It’s a long game with a lot of story and character development.
What about their relationship isn’t possible?