And all of the failures that plagued the 13 and 14 gens. That was the main reason I switched to AMD. My 13th gen CPU was borked and had to be kept underclocked.
In the 486 era (90s) there was a not official story about the way Intel marked its CPUs: instead of starting slow and accelerate until failure, start as fast as you can and slow down until it doesn’t fail.
It would cause system instability (programs/games crashing) when running normally. I had to underclock it through Intel’s XTU to make things stable again.
This was after all the BIOS updates from ASUS and with all BIOS settings set to the safe options.
When I originally got it I did notice that it was getting insanely high scores in benchmarks, then the story broke of how Intel and motherboard manufacturers were letting the CPUs clock as high as possible until they hit the thermal limit. Then mine started to fail I think about a year after I got it.
As a person that generally buys either mid-tier stuff or the flagship products from a couple years ago, it got pretty fucking ridiculous to have to figure out which socket made sense for any given intel chip. The apparently arbitrary naming convention didn’t help.
Which is a pretty arbitrary naming convention since the number of pins in a socket doesn’t really tell you anything especially when that naming convention does NOT get applied to the processors that plug into them.
I think AMD also did a smart thing by branding their sockets. AM4, AM5, what do you think is going to be next? I bet it’s AM6. What came after the Intel LGA1151? It wasn’t LGA1152.
AMD tried the Intel thing too by stopping support of past generation CPU on latter AM4 boards though. Only after public outcry did they scrap that. Wouldn’t put it past them to try it again on AM5.
Or the 1200 different versions of CPUs. We just got some new Dell machines for our DR site last year and the number of CPU options was overwhelming. Is it really necessary for that many different CPUs?
Tbf AMD is also guilty of that, in the laptop/mobile segment specifically. And the whole AI naming thing is just dumb, albeit there aren’t that many of those
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Don’t forget the awfully fast socket changes
And all of the failures that plagued the 13 and 14 gens. That was the main reason I switched to AMD. My 13th gen CPU was borked and had to be kept underclocked.
In the 486 era (90s) there was a not official story about the way Intel marked its CPUs: instead of starting slow and accelerate until failure, start as fast as you can and slow down until it doesn’t fail.
what was the issue?
It would cause system instability (programs/games crashing) when running normally. I had to underclock it through Intel’s XTU to make things stable again.
This was after all the BIOS updates from ASUS and with all BIOS settings set to the safe options.
When I originally got it I did notice that it was getting insanely high scores in benchmarks, then the story broke of how Intel and motherboard manufacturers were letting the CPUs clock as high as possible until they hit the thermal limit. Then mine started to fail I think about a year after I got it.
As a person that generally buys either mid-tier stuff or the flagship products from a couple years ago, it got pretty fucking ridiculous to have to figure out which socket made sense for any given intel chip. The apparently arbitrary naming convention didn’t help.
It wasn’t arbitrary, they named them after the number of pins. Which is fine but kinda confusing for your average consumer
Which is a pretty arbitrary naming convention since the number of pins in a socket doesn’t really tell you anything especially when that naming convention does NOT get applied to the processors that plug into them.
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Even within the same socket family, looking at you lga1151, can you run into compatibility problems.
I think AMD also did a smart thing by branding their sockets. AM4, AM5, what do you think is going to be next? I bet it’s AM6. What came after the Intel LGA1151? It wasn’t LGA1152.
AMD tried the Intel thing too by stopping support of past generation CPU on latter AM4 boards though. Only after public outcry did they scrap that. Wouldn’t put it past them to try it again on AM5.
Are there a lot of people wanting to plug Zen 1 chips into B550 motherboards? Usually it’s the other way around, upgrading chip in an old motherboard.
It can happen if the old motherboard failed, which was more likely than the CPU failing.
There was talk of not providing firmware update for old chipsets to support new gen CPU as well, which is relevant to the cases you mentioned.
Yea, for the customer it really doesn’t matter how many pins a certain socket has, only is it compatible or not.
remember Socket 7?
Holy shit, crosscompatibility between manufacturers? We came this close to the almighty above and still ended up where we are today 🤦♂️
I remember Slot 2
Or the 1200 different versions of CPUs. We just got some new Dell machines for our DR site last year and the number of CPU options was overwhelming. Is it really necessary for that many different CPUs?
Tbf AMD is also guilty of that, in the laptop/mobile segment specifically. And the whole AI naming thing is just dumb, albeit there aren’t that many of those
Well this scheme seems much more reasonable and logical to me.