Or maybe Grim Dawn.
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But grim dawn has classes in the dlc expansions 🤔

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Grim Dawn was an excellent and finished game on release, and said DLCs came out years later via DLCs that acted as expansions to the campaign.

Last Epoch doesn’t even have a complete story, just some unfinished tripe with no real lore and oh here’s a bunch of alternate versions of how the unfinished thing you encountered could have happened differently.

They’re not even in the same class. It’s why I have 440 hours on Grim Dawn and would play it more still. I dropped LE at 170 hours and don’t really see any reason to play more. Hell, Last Epoch had a cash shop before the game even left Early Access. It feels like the development and costs were mismanaged out of the gate. I waited to buy it on discount.

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Grim Dawn is not a live game service.

Last Epoch promised to only have MTX and pay only once to get the full experience. That’s not the case anymore.

Last Epoch studio got bought out and people were afraid they were gonna get enshittified and it is happening right now.

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Yeah. But think about the shareholders. They are way more important than the customers. The customers can go fuck themselves.

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When did the buyout happen?

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Literally the first sentence in the article “Since it was bought by Krafton in July”

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Apparently in 2018 the devs stated publicly they’d never add paid content to the game. At least that’s what the fans state. I dunno.

I bought it a year ago, played it for ten hours. It’s a fun little game.

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Ah. I didn’t know they said that. It’s definitely shitty to go back on that promise. Although in a vacuum, I think this is the kind of non-cosmetic content that’s somewhat acceptable to me as paid DLC. It’s not a competitive game and assuming the class is balanced, it’s just adding content that gives more variety. I’ve been fine with paid DLC in other big games as long as it’s a worthwhile amount of content for the price and it’s sold in a straightforward way without any funny business. Given that this game has online co-op, I think it makes sense that they’re gonna keep the content expansion free so it doesn’t divide people who would want to play together (also I guess there is trading, but I’m a CoF player so…) and then this is something that mostly just affects someone’s individual experience. Like if you were going to be happy enough to keep playing the game with existing classes, then this doesn’t really affect you.

So in principle I’m ok with this… but like I said, the bigger issue is them going back on their word.

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Yeah, feels like an overreaction to me, especially given the economic upheaval affecting the world since 2018.

Devs gotta eat and the game is not only good but fairly priced already.

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I guess they made the promise to compete with poe but eventually found out why it is so hard to make work.

Still, interesting explanations from everyone. thanks

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