Maybe you can help me. I would just like to dabble in it. Can I duel boot from the same drive my windows is in? can it access my storage drives as is, or do I have to completely reformat those and dedicate them to linux?
One other point: if you just want to dabble, you don’t actually need to install Linux. Many (if not most) Linux distributions can be booted from a USB drive as what they call a “Live USB”.
You can dual boot but would highly recommend that you have a separate Windows SSD. Microsoft likes to dick around with the boot loader and bricking the ability to dual boot.
I am still dual booting myself with a small SSD for the rare occasion I want to run a game that isn’t supported on Linux but honestly I haven’t done that in over half a year now so Windows just kinda sits they taking to 200 GB of space.
You can run games from your windows drives but it’s better not to, it can cause weird issues because of the way files are stored (case sensitive vs insensitive, permissions etc.)
Hijacking this to voice my frustration with audio software developers’ outright refusal to support Linux. I know there are a few solutions, but it’s like learning a new instrument and it’s hard to find motivation as it is.
I mean in a way the community tries to help the person realize they are suffering unnecessary pain by a mega corp, just its usually the wrong approach or a toxic one.
From a low pressure sales perspective the community should be phrasing it as questions that make the Windows user think about.
Like:
if you stay on Windows what issues will you still face?
Would moving to Linux solve those issues? Would the change over period be a roadblock, or can you see benefits you would gain.
I think it’s the “minimum effort required” barring people from switching. How much they can be complacent and tolerate the bullshit of a hostile OS they are used to.
Since Windows users will email photos to themselves to put it on another computer, instead of clicking share folder, I’d say you are correct on complacency and minimum effort.
From a low pressure sales perspective the community should be phrasing it as questions that make the Windows user think about.
Even aside from this, I think the bigger issue is that Linux evangelists need to be open to new/ignorant users, and casual users. So much of the Linux community is made up of die-hards who expect other users to be just as invested in it as they are. For example, I’ve tried Linux twice, and both times ran into issues with support for hardware (audio issues the first time, lack of support for my mouse the second). In both cases, I have a significant number of people making absurd suggestions, and expecting me to devote significant amounts of work or money to make my PC functional when I already had a functional OS. Comments to the point of, “just buy new hardware,” “just program the drivers yourself,” or “just hire someone to write the software for you.” were a significant part of the response. Unless Linux is my job or my hobby, these are not realisitc suggestions, and they make Linux look like a nerdy hobby rather than a Windows competitor.
Yeah Linux users can be like overzealous sport parents.
Side note if you do run into hardware issues that is not as simple as installing a package, my suggestion is try another distro. And I have had zealous users get mad at this, but I went through the same situation. I have a 2010 laptop it would not run any Debian based distro or offshoots, and I tried 8-10. They all fail during install with error, or install then and fail to boot with bios/hardware bug. So I tried Fedora and OpenSuSE and those had no problems (rpm based). So whatever was in Debian mainline and trickle down could not deal with the bug. But Fedora and SUSE gave a warning of “BIOS bug, working around it” and boot fine. Oddly enough NixOS works also.
When I described this before, I did have a slew of people saying “you just don’t know what your doing”, or " Debian isn’t the issue here". Lol. Clearly I know enough to attempt 12 or more Linux installs, and having no Debian distros work does mean Debian is the issue.
Honestly the thing stopping me is I enjoy macOS. As soon as Apple enshitifies - imo they haven’t yet - I’m making the switch. But that’s only for my daily driver. Anything SSH I use runs Linux.
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usthem!Sorry I don’t daily drive Linux, but I hate windows and I use neovim. Can I get a pass?
What’s stopping you?
Edit: Not trying to evangelise, gods I hate that about the Linux community. Just trying to see if I can help in any way.
Maybe you can help me. I would just like to dabble in it. Can I duel boot from the same drive my windows is in? can it access my storage drives as is, or do I have to completely reformat those and dedicate them to linux?
It is better to install it on separate drives and use bios to select the drive you want to boot from.
One other point: if you just want to dabble, you don’t actually need to install Linux. Many (if not most) Linux distributions can be booted from a USB drive as what they call a “Live USB”.
Here’s how to do it for Ubuntu: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
The process is similar for other distros. I tried several this way before I decided to install one that I really liked.
You can dual boot but would highly recommend that you have a separate Windows SSD. Microsoft likes to dick around with the boot loader and bricking the ability to dual boot.
I am still dual booting myself with a small SSD for the rare occasion I want to run a game that isn’t supported on Linux but honestly I haven’t done that in over half a year now so Windows just kinda sits they taking to 200 GB of space.
I’m out of rack space for another drive but I guess I can try on a portable one.
Would steam be able to see my existing games or do I have to redownload them?
You can run games from your windows drives but it’s better not to, it can cause weird issues because of the way files are stored (case sensitive vs insensitive, permissions etc.)
Your windows drive would be fine, Linux side you’d need to download then again.
Hijacking this to voice my frustration with audio software developers’ outright refusal to support Linux. I know there are a few solutions, but it’s like learning a new instrument and it’s hard to find motivation as it is.
I mean in a way the community tries to help the person realize they are suffering unnecessary pain by a mega corp, just its usually the wrong approach or a toxic one.
From a low pressure sales perspective the community should be phrasing it as questions that make the Windows user think about.
Like:
if you stay on Windows what issues will you still face?
Would moving to Linux solve those issues? Would the change over period be a roadblock, or can you see benefits you would gain.
I think it’s the “minimum effort required” barring people from switching. How much they can be complacent and tolerate the bullshit of a hostile OS they are used to.
Since Windows users will email photos to themselves to put it on another computer, instead of clicking share folder, I’d say you are correct on complacency and minimum effort.
Even aside from this, I think the bigger issue is that Linux evangelists need to be open to new/ignorant users, and casual users. So much of the Linux community is made up of die-hards who expect other users to be just as invested in it as they are. For example, I’ve tried Linux twice, and both times ran into issues with support for hardware (audio issues the first time, lack of support for my mouse the second). In both cases, I have a significant number of people making absurd suggestions, and expecting me to devote significant amounts of work or money to make my PC functional when I already had a functional OS. Comments to the point of, “just buy new hardware,” “just program the drivers yourself,” or “just hire someone to write the software for you.” were a significant part of the response. Unless Linux is my job or my hobby, these are not realisitc suggestions, and they make Linux look like a nerdy hobby rather than a Windows competitor.
Those are all terrible suggestions lol.
Yeah Linux users can be like overzealous sport parents.
Side note if you do run into hardware issues that is not as simple as installing a package, my suggestion is try another distro. And I have had zealous users get mad at this, but I went through the same situation. I have a 2010 laptop it would not run any Debian based distro or offshoots, and I tried 8-10. They all fail during install with error, or install then and fail to boot with bios/hardware bug. So I tried Fedora and OpenSuSE and those had no problems (rpm based). So whatever was in Debian mainline and trickle down could not deal with the bug. But Fedora and SUSE gave a warning of “BIOS bug, working around it” and boot fine. Oddly enough NixOS works also.
When I described this before, I did have a slew of people saying “you just don’t know what your doing”, or " Debian isn’t the issue here". Lol. Clearly I know enough to attempt 12 or more Linux installs, and having no Debian distros work does mean Debian is the issue.
People.
Honestly the thing stopping me is I enjoy macOS. As soon as Apple enshitifies - imo they haven’t yet - I’m making the switch. But that’s only for my daily driver. Anything SSH I use runs Linux.
I’m just glad you have an up-to-date OS that works for you and that you enjoy. :)