He said most people are playing at 1080p, and last month’s Steam survey had 55% of users with that as their primary display resolution, so he’s right about that. Ignore what’s needed for the 4K monitor only 4.5% of users have as their primary display; is 8GB VRAM really a problem at 1080p?
8GB VRAM is definitely a problem even at 1080p. There are already benchmarks showing this from various outlets. Not in every game of course, and it definitely hurts AAA mre than others. but it will get worse with time, and people buy GPUs to last several years, so it shouldn’t have a major issue on the day you buy it!
Why would they be buying a new card to play how they’re already playing?
What does the long term trend line look like?
You can confidently say that this is fine for most consumers today. There really isn’t a great argument that this will serve most consumers well for the next 3 to 5 years.
It’s ok if well informed consumers are fine with a compromise for their use case.
Misrepresenting the product category, and misleading less informed consumers to believe that it’s not a second rate product in the current generation is deeply anti-consumer.
You can confidently say that this is fine for most consumers today. There really isn’t a great argument that this will serve most consumers well for the next 3 to 5 years.
People have been saying that for years, my 8gb card is chugging along just fine. The race to vram that people were expecting just hasn’t happened. There’s little reason to move on from 1080p and the 75+ million ps5s aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.
There’s no NEED to move on from 1080p, but there are a lot of reasons.
I wouldn’t even object to his position on 1080p if he said “the RX 5700 is fine for most users, don’t waste your money and reduce e-waste”.
He’s telling consumers that they should expect to pay a premium price to be playing a slightly better than 2019 experience until 2028 or 2030. There are gullible people who won’t understand that he’s selling snake oil.
No, I expect him to gaslight naive consumers. Which is what he did. I just don’t get why others are defending it.
In this case, at 1080p it’s barely more performance for a lot more money. And if we’re falling back on “good enough for most people” then an RX 5700 or 6600 is also “good enough for most people”.
It’s a free market, he can sell a low value product to suckers. That’s his right. You’re free to defend him and think it’s not scummy. But it’s scummy, and hopefully most people who know better are going to call it out.
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He said most people are playing at 1080p, and last month’s Steam survey had 55% of users with that as their primary display resolution, so he’s right about that. Ignore what’s needed for the 4K monitor only 4.5% of users have as their primary display; is 8GB VRAM really a problem at 1080p?
8GB VRAM is definitely a problem even at 1080p. There are already benchmarks showing this from various outlets. Not in every game of course, and it definitely hurts AAA mre than others. but it will get worse with time, and people buy GPUs to last several years, so it shouldn’t have a major issue on the day you buy it!
Good thing there are only trash AAA games and the gems are indie games which would run on GladOS.
Not all indie games are low graphics requirements.
What’s a trend without outliers?
Absolutely. Why pay more if less is good enough?
They are open about it, and give the option to get more RAM if you want it. Fine by me.
No one with a 4k monitor will by them anyway.
Different problem, IMO.
You can confidently say that this is fine for most consumers today. There really isn’t a great argument that this will serve most consumers well for the next 3 to 5 years.
It’s ok if well informed consumers are fine with a compromise for their use case.
Misrepresenting the product category, and misleading less informed consumers to believe that it’s not a second rate product in the current generation is deeply anti-consumer.
People have been saying that for years, my 8gb card is chugging along just fine. The race to vram that people were expecting just hasn’t happened. There’s little reason to move on from 1080p and the 75+ million ps5s aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.
There’s no NEED to move on from 1080p, but there are a lot of reasons.
I wouldn’t even object to his position on 1080p if he said “the RX 5700 is fine for most users, don’t waste your money and reduce e-waste”.
He’s telling consumers that they should expect to pay a premium price to be playing a slightly better than 2019 experience until 2028 or 2030. There are gullible people who won’t understand that he’s selling snake oil.
What exactly do you expect him to say? Get the same GPU, but with more vram, at no extra cost?
If you want more performance, you pay more, that’s the way it’s always worked, and he’s correct in that 8gb is good enough for most people.
No, I expect him to gaslight naive consumers. Which is what he did. I just don’t get why others are defending it.
In this case, at 1080p it’s barely more performance for a lot more money. And if we’re falling back on “good enough for most people” then an RX 5700 or 6600 is also “good enough for most people”.
It’s a free market, he can sell a low value product to suckers. That’s his right. You’re free to defend him and think it’s not scummy. But it’s scummy, and hopefully most people who know better are going to call it out.