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Tbh I don’t agree at all that kubuntu is easier for beginners, that may have been the case 5 or so years ago, but bazzite and aurora are the best now, also there’s literally no reason to use fedora over bazzite or aurora since they’re literally the same thing except with some added packages and important fixes (especially the ffmpeg fix that makes twitch work)
I honestly think ubuntu based distros are an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.
I think only immutable kde distros should be recommended to beginners as a result, the mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).
How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.
Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.
I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.
in short yeah I think it’s a pretty bad place in the modern era, but was a great one a few years ago, recommendations are slow to change with the times.
I like Fedora simply because you don’t have to take extra steps to remove Snaps. I’ve gone from being fan of Ubuntu to avoiding it because of the way Canonical has behaved in recent years and the negative impacts that behavior has had on the distro (and community). It feels immoral preferring a Red Hat/IBM distro over Ubuntu, but unfortunately it’s the better product.
I recommend Kubuntu to new users simply because the documentation, website, and learning material is better. Bazzite is also not without it’s quirks, especially if you want to start learning more about Linux in general and branching out beyond gaming.
I specialize in giving new users linux and documentation has not been an issue at all with bazzite, I just let them know to use rpm-ostree as little as possible ( and that it replaces the normal fedora package manager ) and only when necessary and search for atomic fedora for guides.
so far I have run into zero documentation issues that weren’t just general linux ones. I think your claim might have been true a while ago but no longer is.
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Tbh I don’t agree at all that kubuntu is easier for beginners, that may have been the case 5 or so years ago, but bazzite and aurora are the best now, also there’s literally no reason to use fedora over bazzite or aurora since they’re literally the same thing except with some added packages and important fixes (especially the ffmpeg fix that makes twitch work)
I honestly think ubuntu based distros are an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.
I think only immutable kde distros should be recommended to beginners as a result, the mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).
How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.
Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.
I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.
I hear a lot of people recommending Mint for a first timer, would you generally disagree since it doesn’t use KDE?
Tbh I copy and pasted a lot from a previous post I made about mint
https://lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz/comment/18486270
in short yeah I think it’s a pretty bad place in the modern era, but was a great one a few years ago, recommendations are slow to change with the times.
I like Fedora simply because you don’t have to take extra steps to remove Snaps. I’ve gone from being fan of Ubuntu to avoiding it because of the way Canonical has behaved in recent years and the negative impacts that behavior has had on the distro (and community). It feels immoral preferring a Red Hat/IBM distro over Ubuntu, but unfortunately it’s the better product.
I recommend Kubuntu to new users simply because the documentation, website, and learning material is better. Bazzite is also not without it’s quirks, especially if you want to start learning more about Linux in general and branching out beyond gaming.
I specialize in giving new users linux and documentation has not been an issue at all with bazzite, I just let them know to use rpm-ostree as little as possible ( and that it replaces the normal fedora package manager ) and only when necessary and search for atomic fedora for guides.
so far I have run into zero documentation issues that weren’t just general linux ones. I think your claim might have been true a while ago but no longer is.