Sony Delists Original Horizon Zero Dawn on PC, Forces PSN Requirement for Remaster - IGN
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Sony’s controversial PlayStation Network requirement for its PC games is once again in the spotlight after the company delisted the original Horizon Zero Dawn on Steam and the Epic Games Store and added the PSN requirement to the upcoming single-player remaster.
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Just don’t play them at all. Pirating still gives their games attention that will lead to extra sales when compared to a complete flop.

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I want to play them. Sony PC ports are objectively good games. Maybe you subjectively don’t like some but you are a minority.

They lost sales from me. Given time, I would probably buy all of them. I usually always buy games. I have 800 games on Steam.

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Nestlé products taste good. Does my Nestlé boycott still count if I steel it?

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Only if you’re borrowing the hot chocolate and allow them to walk into your kitchen and repossess it whenever they want.

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Are you saying you wouldn’t steal from Nestle?

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I wouldn’t steel from anybody, but if you want to make it the lorry problem, yes I would rather steal from an evil company than a less evil.

Doesn’t mean I start stealing.

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I feel the argument is a little different when it comes to physical goods.

Stealing a Nestlé product takes away revenue just like if it were left on the shelf, never purchased, and discarded by the shop. The main benefit there is the edible portion of the product doesn’t end up in a landfill.

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It’s the same when I look at my dignity. When I boycott a company or a specific product, I don’t even want it for free.

No more Rolo, even when it is a gift.

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What would you say to vegan activists that break into farms and steal animals? That’s wrong too because they are boycotting the meat industry?

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l would say it’s dumb because more animals get harmed that way, because the missing animals will get replaced.

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The next animal was already coming either way. Stolen, lost, dead animals are all counted the same way.

The activist taking animals ensures that whatever was going to happen, its that minus whatever they rescue. You could argue its such a small difference its not worth it, but veganism is about minimizing any harm possible, which includes to single animals.

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the difference is not worth it

minimizimg any harm

How do counter argue yourself…

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If more people held themselves accountable, these products wouldn’t exist. I know it can be an awkward situation to deny a gift for ethical reasons. Kudos to you.

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Only if you steal directly from Nestle.

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They are great games and I want to play them. Their pricing policies just suck.

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To be fair, if you only want to pay 15-20 for nearly any game no matter the quality, you will have to wait quite a long time. In most cases the Sony PC ports have been excellent games though, so it’s not like its a ripoff like in other instances.

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Problem is, the games are fun. Had a hell of a time with the second game, and unleashed the 100%er in me

Edit: The games are genuinely high quality, with interesting and constantly evolving mechanics and often good stories. That’s not something you see in big titles anymore.

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The ironic part is that Sony is likely collecting data for internal reasons more than anything. They hold themselves to a high standard. I wouldn’t doubt though that they have considered profiting from end user data in other ways though, just not to the same extent as American companies do.

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