Isn’t the main issue whether or not there’s an ease to replace? There’s like 20 steps and a bunch of easily breakable cables involved with replacing it currently.
I mean I think you can replace the Switch’s battery too by that standard.
Same site even says it’s only 1 extra step in total, though instead of the cables being in the way, it sounds like the shields a bit more difficult.
But like either of these replacements would require a technical user to do it.
A battery that can be popped out and replaced, with no tools and no risk of damaging any of the other hardware on the board.
Just supplying the tools and steps is absolutely not enough. We’re talking about replacing a part on a $300+ machine. Most people would be scared to do that purely on the merits they couldn’t afford to replace if something went wrong.
i think ‘user replaceable’ should involve no tools, and a minimum of time. if step one involves removing eight tiny screws, and it only gets more cumbersome from there, i don’t think it counts.
The currebt rule says “No propritary tools” which seems reasonable when you add in that glueing in is considered “non-replacable” too. The GBA SP needed a single screw to hold in it’s battery and nothing else. Plus with proper threading, screws last much longer than plastic clips.
There’s something to be said for this as well certainly but I do think the deck is still much better overall than will be required since they actually offer spare parts for sale for pretty much everything and repair guides too.
Not really. Look up the Linus Tech Tips teardown. The battery is glued in super hard. Linus said he spoke to Valve about that and according to him Valve said they’re looking into making it easier to replace at a later date. Since then I’ve not seen any reports about a change.
If this is considered replaceable, I wonder what an non-replaceable battery would be. Soldered to the main board and trying to unsolder it causes a failsafe to short the CPU?
Non replaceable batteries are on iPhones, since they are paired with the motherboard, and if you replace it, iOS will keep warning you every day about a non genuine battery presents in your device.
Nah. The battery on my old Samsung Galaxy S4 literally just pops out with minor force applied as soon as the cover is off, leaving the phone ready for a new one to be slotted in. That is what “user replaceable” means.
Don’t get me wrong, I am familiar with electronics, have a diploma in electrical engineering, have soldered hundreds/thousands of components, etc. and I could do this easily (though I have concerns about heating the battery). But most people cannot currently replace the battery without significant headaches.
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Steam deck done. https://www.ifixit.com/Device/Steam_Deck
Heat gun on the battery, that sounds fun
Your right. It’s not the best but till allows you to replace it. Unlike iPhone and Android since they are much harder to replace.
Some Android phones are decent, like the Fairphone. But most are a giant pain.
my mom has one that you can just replace the batery. it’s a ZTE
Isn’t the main issue whether or not there’s an ease to replace? There’s like 20 steps and a bunch of easily breakable cables involved with replacing it currently.
I mean I think you can replace the Switch’s battery too by that standard.
Same site even says it’s only 1 extra step in total, though instead of the cables being in the way, it sounds like the shields a bit more difficult.
But like either of these replacements would require a technical user to do it.
it should be done by 2027 at the latest it sounds like.
‘ease to replace’ to whom?
seems like an impossible to define standard, but I’d be interested to hear what the requirements are
if they supply the necessary tools and steps/videos, is that enough?
Given SLaSZT already gave an answer in
https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/202790/Gaming-handhelds-like-the-Switch-and-Steam-Deck-will-need#entry-comment-836808
Which isn’t far from this post
I don’t think you asked this in good faith.
A battery that can be popped out and replaced, with no tools and no risk of damaging any of the other hardware on the board.
Just supplying the tools and steps is absolutely not enough. We’re talking about replacing a part on a $300+ machine. Most people would be scared to do that purely on the merits they couldn’t afford to replace if something went wrong.
True. But this is 10 years old now. Are we going to reduce water resistance over ease of use to repair? Might be. But where so we draw the line?
It’s going to be interesting to see the requirements. I’m hoping for somewhere between ease and keeping water resistance up.
The steam deck battery is glued on? Fucking seriously? Jesus
i think ‘user replaceable’ should involve no tools, and a minimum of time. if step one involves removing eight tiny screws, and it only gets more cumbersome from there, i don’t think it counts.
The currebt rule says “No propritary tools” which seems reasonable when you add in that glueing in is considered “non-replacable” too. The GBA SP needed a single screw to hold in it’s battery and nothing else. Plus with proper threading, screws last much longer than plastic clips.
There’s something to be said for this as well certainly but I do think the deck is still much better overall than will be required since they actually offer spare parts for sale for pretty much everything and repair guides too.
Not really. Look up the Linus Tech Tips teardown. The battery is glued in super hard. Linus said he spoke to Valve about that and according to him Valve said they’re looking into making it easier to replace at a later date. Since then I’ve not seen any reports about a change.
Says 2-4 hours and “difficult” on the battery replacement page
And requires heating + prying.
If this is considered replaceable, I wonder what an non-replaceable battery would be. Soldered to the main board and trying to unsolder it causes a failsafe to short the CPU?
Non replaceable batteries are on iPhones, since they are paired with the motherboard, and if you replace it, iOS will keep warning you every day about a non genuine battery presents in your device.
its an easy fix. replace the adhesive with stretch release battery adhesive.
Nah. The battery on my old Samsung Galaxy S4 literally just pops out with minor force applied as soon as the cover is off, leaving the phone ready for a new one to be slotted in. That is what “user replaceable” means.
Don’t get me wrong, I am familiar with electronics, have a diploma in electrical engineering, have soldered hundreds/thousands of components, etc. and I could do this easily (though I have concerns about heating the battery). But most people cannot currently replace the battery without significant headaches.