Regardless, right-wing Twitter users already hate Threads.
When Threads launched on Wednesday, numerous right-wing users shared(opens in a new tab) their dissatisfaction(opens in a new tab) with Twitter’s biggest competitor — on Twitter of course — over having their accounts flagged for disinformation. As of Friday, however, it seems the warning label on accounts that reported the issue has since disappeared.
If not by their actions, how do you judge someone? I cannot know “who they are” unless they either tell me or show me, and actions speak louder than words.
So many people will claim to be “good people” then go on a 20 minute rant about the “gay groomer agenda” and how gay people should “leave children alone” and how black people “commit too much crime and need to be policed more for it” when you give them one glass of wine and start talking about politics. Their overall stance is clear, and it isn’t on the side of “being a good person.”
My mother (who is a good person otherwise), complained that the gays have to be “so in your face about it.” Really? Do gay men stop her in the grocery store and make her watch them make out? What the fuck is that shit?! She also told me she was sad when Rush Limbaugh died.
We have a no-politics rule now, or I’d not be able to maintain the relationship. She’s awesome when politics aren’t involved. She’s the best reminder that people who think awful things can still be human.
Absolutely, though I’m a believer that what they are is in part defined by their actions. Any label prescribed onto people is a mixture of identity and actions, and only the actions impact other people, and I personally believe that someone’s moral worth is determined by the effects of their actions on other people.
Personal morality alignment aside, the fact is those who support right wing policies and candidates, and those who identiy as ‘right wingers’ either explicitly or implicitly support right wing policies. These have time and time again been shown in practice to widen the inequality gap, suppress wages and purchasing power for non-capital owners, disproportionately reward corporate greed, roll back regulations put in place to preserve general health and welfare, decrease healthcare access and standards (same with education), disenfranchise minorities…etc.
I’m not really heartbroken for Threads, just identifying market trends. Right-wingers aren’t bad people inherently, but right-wing policies and political organizations are absolutely far worse than their centrist and left-wing equivalents.
The prerequisite to identify yourself as a right-winger is to have a severe deficit in basic problem solving skills and the ability to logically deconstruct misinformation. While they’re not all inherently bad people, they are absolutely being manipulated by some of the worst people this world has to offer and I say that without a grain of hyperbolism. The sheer amount of self-contradictions and hypocrisy that comes from right wing outlets makes my head spin but is often completely overlooked or willfully ignored by those who are made to support those positions out of fear or anger.
Conservatives are widely victims of the upper class mass-generating misinformation to keep people distracted on culture wars so they don’t notice the desperate need for a class war. Socialism is compared to Communism, Communism is compared to the USSR, somehow reviving The Red Scare and in the next breath will praise Putin for the unprovoked slaughter of Ukrainians because ‘that’s what a strong leader does’. All of which is done to distract from policies that would make the rich less rich by making some of the worst possible takes. The mere fact gas stoves was actually turned into a culture war speaks volumes about how little these idiots need to generate outrage.
I pity them more than anything but I’m not immune to getting irrationally angry at the terminally stupid.
That depends on your definition of “right winger.” Your average Republican is likely a fine person, but your average fascist isn’t. If you:
support Jan 6 rioters
believe in QAnon
believe in phrenology
think we should have less immigration
You’re probably not a good person. But if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you’re probably fine. I don’t have a problem with people who support the GOP (I do have a problem with the GOP itself), but I do have a problem with the right wing of the GOP and especially the few who the GOP consider “too radical” for the party.
The same is true for the left end of the spectrum as well. Basically, once you go too far down one end of the spectrum, there’s a good chance you’re self-selecting as a bad person.
If you want to use the might of government to right some “social wrong,” we’re probably not going to agree. Government should merely exist to maintain order and protect the vulnerable, it shouldn’t be used to regiment society in any real way.
Is phrenology a big thing? I know it’s was popular a couple hundred years ago but did it make a comeback? This is the 2nd time I’ve heard it brought up in the last week and I just didn’t realize that was popular these days.
Not necessarily phrenology specifically, but scientific racism is a thing. One example is Stefan Molyneaux, if you want someone to look up. The “science” these people use is often poor or extremely misleading.
I can’t speak to phrenology per se, but phrenology’s modern analogue is, in my opinion, the “genetics” argument. Whereas phrenology was some attempt to “explain” how the apparent shape was indicative of underlying brain structure, contemporary “scientific” racists will use genetic differences to “explain” whatever behavior they want to attribute to it.
Government has been and still is used to regiment society in very real ways. In all likelihood it always will be used this way. Believing that it shouldn’t serves to distract from that reality and from the actions of those who use it to achieve their goals. E.g. pushing for small government is often used to remove regulation so that capitalists can offload more of their costs (such as externalities) to the rest of society - a.k.a. socializing their losses.
I grew up as a fervent GOP supporter and thought they just weren’t able to execute because I lived in a blue state, and then I moved to a red state and realized the problem isn’t with any given party, but the lack of accountability when they have a clear majority.
So I now consider myself libertarian and vote for whichever candidate has a decent platform in a given election. In my state, that’s usually libertarians and Democrats, and for President, it varies by election. My vote doesn’t matter that much either way, but I try to do my due diligence anyway in case I can influence others who live in more interesting areas.
I dislike both major parties, but both field decent candidates from time to time. Unfortunately, that hasn’t happened for President in quite some time though.
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Oh no! Anyway. All right-wingers are not bad people.
No, they just make bad political decisions.
So you judge people by their actions not what they are?
Lol, yes.
Uh, yes. How else would you judge people?
I’m just asking. That’s all.
Ok Tucker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
You are your actions.
If someone consistently does horrible, hateful actions, guess what. They’re a horrible, hateful person.
If not by their actions, how do you judge someone? I cannot know “who they are” unless they either tell me or show me, and actions speak louder than words.
So many people will claim to be “good people” then go on a 20 minute rant about the “gay groomer agenda” and how gay people should “leave children alone” and how black people “commit too much crime and need to be policed more for it” when you give them one glass of wine and start talking about politics. Their overall stance is clear, and it isn’t on the side of “being a good person.”
My mother (who is a good person otherwise), complained that the gays have to be “so in your face about it.” Really? Do gay men stop her in the grocery store and make her watch them make out? What the fuck is that shit?! She also told me she was sad when Rush Limbaugh died.
We have a no-politics rule now, or I’d not be able to maintain the relationship. She’s awesome when politics aren’t involved. She’s the best reminder that people who think awful things can still be human.
Absolutely, though I’m a believer that what they are is in part defined by their actions. Any label prescribed onto people is a mixture of identity and actions, and only the actions impact other people, and I personally believe that someone’s moral worth is determined by the effects of their actions on other people.
Personal morality alignment aside, the fact is those who support right wing policies and candidates, and those who identiy as ‘right wingers’ either explicitly or implicitly support right wing policies. These have time and time again been shown in practice to widen the inequality gap, suppress wages and purchasing power for non-capital owners, disproportionately reward corporate greed, roll back regulations put in place to preserve general health and welfare, decrease healthcare access and standards (same with education), disenfranchise minorities…etc.
Yes they are
Yes, the group that’s actively destroying civil rights are the good guys!!
I’m not really heartbroken for Threads, just identifying market trends. Right-wingers aren’t bad people inherently, but right-wing policies and political organizations are absolutely far worse than their centrist and left-wing equivalents.
The prerequisite to identify yourself as a right-winger is to have a severe deficit in basic problem solving skills and the ability to logically deconstruct misinformation. While they’re not all inherently bad people, they are absolutely being manipulated by some of the worst people this world has to offer and I say that without a grain of hyperbolism. The sheer amount of self-contradictions and hypocrisy that comes from right wing outlets makes my head spin but is often completely overlooked or willfully ignored by those who are made to support those positions out of fear or anger.
Conservatives are widely victims of the upper class mass-generating misinformation to keep people distracted on culture wars so they don’t notice the desperate need for a class war. Socialism is compared to Communism, Communism is compared to the USSR, somehow reviving The Red Scare and in the next breath will praise Putin for the unprovoked slaughter of Ukrainians because ‘that’s what a strong leader does’. All of which is done to distract from policies that would make the rich less rich by making some of the worst possible takes. The mere fact gas stoves was actually turned into a culture war speaks volumes about how little these idiots need to generate outrage.
I pity them more than anything but I’m not immune to getting irrationally angry at the terminally stupid.
Now you’re cooking with poison!
That depends on your definition of “right winger.” Your average Republican is likely a fine person, but your average fascist isn’t. If you:
You’re probably not a good person. But if you merely believe in smaller government and think the GOP will give that to you, then you’re probably fine. I don’t have a problem with people who support the GOP (I do have a problem with the GOP itself), but I do have a problem with the right wing of the GOP and especially the few who the GOP consider “too radical” for the party.
The same is true for the left end of the spectrum as well. Basically, once you go too far down one end of the spectrum, there’s a good chance you’re self-selecting as a bad person.
If you want to use the might of government to right some “social wrong,” we’re probably not going to agree. Government should merely exist to maintain order and protect the vulnerable, it shouldn’t be used to regiment society in any real way.
Is phrenology a big thing? I know it’s was popular a couple hundred years ago but did it make a comeback? This is the 2nd time I’ve heard it brought up in the last week and I just didn’t realize that was popular these days.
Not necessarily phrenology specifically, but scientific racism is a thing. One example is Stefan Molyneaux, if you want someone to look up. The “science” these people use is often poor or extremely misleading.
I can’t speak to phrenology per se, but phrenology’s modern analogue is, in my opinion, the “genetics” argument. Whereas phrenology was some attempt to “explain” how the apparent shape was indicative of underlying brain structure, contemporary “scientific” racists will use genetic differences to “explain” whatever behavior they want to attribute to it.
People who want to do phrenology now tend to hide it in an “AI algorithm”
Government has been and still is used to regiment society in very real ways. In all likelihood it always will be used this way. Believing that it shouldn’t serves to distract from that reality and from the actions of those who use it to achieve their goals. E.g. pushing for small government is often used to remove regulation so that capitalists can offload more of their costs (such as externalities) to the rest of society - a.k.a. socializing their losses.
Sure, but that doesn’t make you a bad person.
I grew up as a fervent GOP supporter and thought they just weren’t able to execute because I lived in a blue state, and then I moved to a red state and realized the problem isn’t with any given party, but the lack of accountability when they have a clear majority.
So I now consider myself libertarian and vote for whichever candidate has a decent platform in a given election. In my state, that’s usually libertarians and Democrats, and for President, it varies by election. My vote doesn’t matter that much either way, but I try to do my due diligence anyway in case I can influence others who live in more interesting areas.
I dislike both major parties, but both field decent candidates from time to time. Unfortunately, that hasn’t happened for President in quite some time though.