Nintendo Co. is advising game publishers that its next-generation console will be delayed until the early months of 2025, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
Reports were saying the Switch was coming q4 2024, but now Nintendo is reportedly telling its partners that it’s been pushed to q1 2025
I’ll be surprised if it even approaches the hardware power of the PS4/XBO. It won’t matter. Fan boys will eat whatever they’re given, and ask for seconds.
Found the person who does not understand the switch and what it is. Who is a 700 dollar pc gamer but wishes they could afford a 4070 TI since they are using a 1030 or a Voodoo4 3dfx card. All video cards that are almost as much as the switch alone other then the troll card which on eBay is going for over a 100 bucks for a 20 year old gfx card right now
Do you only think the hardware is underwhelming because you’re comparing it to a PlayStation that’s about ten times larger? As a handheld console you can’t deny it was impressive.
Nintendo put the buttons in their order 2 decades before the Xbox even existed, if anything Microsoft is putting buttons on the wrong way around. Unless of course you’re referring to something other than the order of X Y A B.
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not, ngl… if you’re being serious though then why do you suppose that having B be above A and Y be above X is the “correct” way? The way I see it, having A be the interact button seems more natural than having B be the interact button, and the former is how it’s set up on games like BOTW that use Nintendo controllers. Tbh though I actually wish bottom was X, left was A, right was B, and up was Y. An abomination to modern gamers, I’m sure, but it seems the most sensical considering the cultural perception of the symbol X imho.
Also Xbox isn’t the entire game industry… Playstation doesn’t even use the same symbols, and I can’t think of any relevant consoles which use similar controllers to those 3. The only “official” controllers I can think of that use the Xbox order are ones made for specifically Xbox/Microsoft. I guess also the Sega Dreamcast? But that’s more because Microsoft played a large role in making the Dreamcast, and later based the Xbox heavily off of Sega consoles/controllers, and the button layout just came along with everything else. They didn’t want to conflict with Nintendo and potentially get into legal issues based off of controller button layout, so that was the easiest route.
That being said, I’m so used to the Xbox controller layout that using Nintendo controllers gives me an aneurysm because Xbox switches the buttons. Any time I emulate a Nintendo game I just use my Xbox One controller and a mod to display the input tips differently. But that’s not anyone’s fault.
Any time I emulate a Nintendo game I just use my Xbox One controller and a mod to display the input tips differently. But that’s not anyone’s fault.
That’s very much where I’m coming from. Go look at the mods for any non-nintendo game and see how many mods change it to a nintendo controller. Other way around and you’ll find a lot more so I can’t base this on nothing, right?
I mean that’s mostly because a separate Nintendo controller that wasn’t highly specialized for Nintendo games specifically is mostly a new thing.
We’ve had Xbox controllers and Playstation controllers for 2 and almost 3 decades respectively, and Nintendo games are the most targetted for emulation so of course there will be a lot of community effort put into mods for those.
Meanwhile your options for Nintendo controllers practically boiled down to Wii controllers, the Wii U gamepad, the NES controllers, the N64 controller, the consoles themselves like the 3DS/DS/Gameboy, and some others. Most of them are part of the consoles themselves so are out of the picture, the Wii controller is just not suitable for other consoles, the NES controllers don’t have joysticks, and the N64 controller has a single joystick.
The Switch controllers, which are relatively new, are really the only ones suitable for emulating other consoles’ games, and you can use the Switch controller to comfortably emulate many non-Nintendo games now.
Considering that, another important factor is that since the Switch controllers are more recent, they’re less likely to have been adapted to older or more obscure games especially, since to do that people now have to go do “back in time” modding for old games years or decades after their release. And since most modern non-Nintendo console games are available on PC natively and aren’t emulated, there’s really no incentive to make QOL mods for people using Switch controllers (or any other kinds of controllers for that matter, including PS & Xbox controllers) on newer titles.
It has nothing to do with the button layout itself, it wouldn’t even make sense for that to be the reason. People will use whatever controller they have available, so people who play Nintendo games most often will likely use Nintendo controllers and people who play the Xbox most often will likely use Xbox controllers.
First party software. I buy Nintendo consoles for their ip, not their power. My desktop is where I do most of my gaming, but I have an attachment to Zelda games that I don’t think will ever go away. I still have my official prima guide for links awakening dx. I have a map on the wall of twilight princess’s over world.
I don’t even like the switch for portability because it feels bulky and uncomfortable. But connected to the dock, I can forget that it’s supposed to be portable and enjoy my Zelda games. My wife also likes animal crossing, and I got her to play her first Zelda and Pokémon games in the last year, and those were games that shaped my childhood.
So I guess my answer is shared experiences and nostalgia.
Size. Not everyone has ginormous hands. The steam deck feels big and unwieldy despite being fairly light. I also don’t like the ergonomics of the steam deck, and I would miss the colours and so on. But also not everyone wants to emulate Nintendo games. Half the fun of animal crossing was sharing experiences with other players online. Same with smash bros. Emulation isn’t at a point where I would consider it to be for the masses and certainly not for a lot of kids these days.
The steam deck is a great device and there should be competition in this space of portables. But not everything about it is perfect for everyone.
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And it will be outdated and underpowered at launch and probably like $400 minimum
I’ll be surprised if it even approaches the hardware power of the PS4/XBO. It won’t matter. Fan boys will eat whatever they’re given, and ask for seconds.
ohh nooo, games that are actually fun
Found the person who does not understand the switch and what it is. Who is a 700 dollar pc gamer but wishes they could afford a 4070 TI since they are using a 1030 or a Voodoo4 3dfx card. All video cards that are almost as much as the switch alone other then the troll card which on eBay is going for over a 100 bucks for a 20 year old gfx card right now
“I will decide what the Switch is”
Oh, the arrogance. Also I don’t play games on my PC. Now don’t you just look silly.
Calm down, Susan, everything will be OK.
What’s the troll card?
I like how the switch had two Zelda games that are still more mechanically impressive than all the open world games on “better” systems.
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Do you only think the hardware is underwhelming because you’re comparing it to a PlayStation that’s about ten times larger? As a handheld console you can’t deny it was impressive.
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Fair enough, I’ve only played a couple of switch games and they seemed fine to me
Also those games have a lot of typical nintendo stubbornness like not realising they’re still putting the buttons on the wrong way around.
Nintendo put the buttons in their order 2 decades before the Xbox even existed, if anything Microsoft is putting buttons on the wrong way around. Unless of course you’re referring to something other than the order of X Y A B.
After which the entire gaming industry decided Nintendo was silly and put them the other way around.
Just because they were the first ones, doesn’t mean they did it correctly.
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not, ngl… if you’re being serious though then why do you suppose that having B be above A and Y be above X is the “correct” way? The way I see it, having A be the interact button seems more natural than having B be the interact button, and the former is how it’s set up on games like BOTW that use Nintendo controllers. Tbh though I actually wish bottom was X, left was A, right was B, and up was Y. An abomination to modern gamers, I’m sure, but it seems the most sensical considering the cultural perception of the symbol X imho.
Also Xbox isn’t the entire game industry… Playstation doesn’t even use the same symbols, and I can’t think of any relevant consoles which use similar controllers to those 3. The only “official” controllers I can think of that use the Xbox order are ones made for specifically Xbox/Microsoft. I guess also the Sega Dreamcast? But that’s more because Microsoft played a large role in making the Dreamcast, and later based the Xbox heavily off of Sega consoles/controllers, and the button layout just came along with everything else. They didn’t want to conflict with Nintendo and potentially get into legal issues based off of controller button layout, so that was the easiest route.
That being said, I’m so used to the Xbox controller layout that using Nintendo controllers gives me an aneurysm because Xbox switches the buttons. Any time I emulate a Nintendo game I just use my Xbox One controller and a mod to display the input tips differently. But that’s not anyone’s fault.
That’s very much where I’m coming from. Go look at the mods for any non-nintendo game and see how many mods change it to a nintendo controller. Other way around and you’ll find a lot more so I can’t base this on nothing, right?
I mean that’s mostly because a separate Nintendo controller that wasn’t highly specialized for Nintendo games specifically is mostly a new thing.
We’ve had Xbox controllers and Playstation controllers for 2 and almost 3 decades respectively, and Nintendo games are the most targetted for emulation so of course there will be a lot of community effort put into mods for those.
Meanwhile your options for Nintendo controllers practically boiled down to Wii controllers, the Wii U gamepad, the NES controllers, the N64 controller, the consoles themselves like the 3DS/DS/Gameboy, and some others. Most of them are part of the consoles themselves so are out of the picture, the Wii controller is just not suitable for other consoles, the NES controllers don’t have joysticks, and the N64 controller has a single joystick.
The Switch controllers, which are relatively new, are really the only ones suitable for emulating other consoles’ games, and you can use the Switch controller to comfortably emulate many non-Nintendo games now.
Considering that, another important factor is that since the Switch controllers are more recent, they’re less likely to have been adapted to older or more obscure games especially, since to do that people now have to go do “back in time” modding for old games years or decades after their release. And since most modern non-Nintendo console games are available on PC natively and aren’t emulated, there’s really no incentive to make QOL mods for people using Switch controllers (or any other kinds of controllers for that matter, including PS & Xbox controllers) on newer titles.
It has nothing to do with the button layout itself, it wouldn’t even make sense for that to be the reason. People will use whatever controller they have available, so people who play Nintendo games most often will likely use Nintendo controllers and people who play the Xbox most often will likely use Xbox controllers.
You don’t buy Nintendo for pure computing power. I prefer Nintendo consoles for the portability and game library.
I also have a pc with a 3070ti for more demanding games. Games that Xboxes and playstations runs like shit anyway.
I don’t understand why it would be preferred over a steam deck, especially if it is at that price point.
First party software. I buy Nintendo consoles for their ip, not their power. My desktop is where I do most of my gaming, but I have an attachment to Zelda games that I don’t think will ever go away. I still have my official prima guide for links awakening dx. I have a map on the wall of twilight princess’s over world.
I don’t even like the switch for portability because it feels bulky and uncomfortable. But connected to the dock, I can forget that it’s supposed to be portable and enjoy my Zelda games. My wife also likes animal crossing, and I got her to play her first Zelda and Pokémon games in the last year, and those were games that shaped my childhood.
So I guess my answer is shared experiences and nostalgia.
Size. Not everyone has ginormous hands. The steam deck feels big and unwieldy despite being fairly light. I also don’t like the ergonomics of the steam deck, and I would miss the colours and so on. But also not everyone wants to emulate Nintendo games. Half the fun of animal crossing was sharing experiences with other players online. Same with smash bros. Emulation isn’t at a point where I would consider it to be for the masses and certainly not for a lot of kids these days.
The steam deck is a great device and there should be competition in this space of portables. But not everything about it is perfect for everyone.
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