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As time goes one community will emerge as the main one while other would dry up and naturally become obsolete (until people get angry with the mods of main one and start looking for alternative community, similar to how there are r/truegaming, r/true(x) etc for popular subreddits.)
There are many open PRs on lemmy github on how to aggregate similar communities. For example there is a suggestion of making an auto multireddit like thing, m/gaming for example, that would merge posts from every c/gaming community (not sure how this would work with defederation and stuff). With enough demand, something like that can be added to lemmy by an experienced dev.
Things like defederation and having communities with the same topic on different instances are actually good things, they’re features of the Fediverse not problems.
It takes a bit of adapting to the Fediverse mindset as opposed to the centralized platform mindset but there are solutions:
Having multiple communities like OP said is a good thing, let’s see which one rises to the top.
There are already Lemmy clients that can subscribe to accounts on multiple instances and merge everything seamlessly for you.
A multireddit-like feature will probably be implemented eventually, and I suspect it will also be a client feature not a server feature, because it makes much more sense on the client.
How are users that aren’t interested in following the state of each community supposed to know which one is “on top” or the best community to post to or watch for relevant information? I don’t agree that making meta-level knowledge of the site mandatory to successfully navigating it is healthy or smart for the long term success of lemmy.
How are users that aren’t interested in following the state of each community supposed to know which one is “on top” or the best community to post to or watch for relevant information? I
Look at c/all and see which communities consistently are at the top. If you like one community over the other, upvote and comment on that community’s posts.
A lot of people are fresh off of Reddit and are looking for an exact clone of Reddit, which is fair enough. They don’t understand Federation and think Lemmy needs to stop doing it, lol. Like, Squables is that way - - - >
How are users that aren’t interested in following the state of each community supposed to know which one is “on top” or the best community
The same way they have been doing it on reddit. You browse around, see a community that looks interesting and you subscribe. Notice that you have two related communities and you merge them in your client.
I don’t agree that making meta-level knowledge of the site mandatory to successfully navigating it is healthy or smart for the long term success of lemmy.
I mean, you need to know how a service works in order to use it effectively. Lemmy works a certain way and that’s that.
Not sure which you’re arguing for – that Lemmy should be simpler (I think it’s fairly simple for what it is) or that clients should be simpler (which is happening as we speak) – but either way it’s going to work out. Hell, Twitter’s mechanics are a lot less intuitive and it still managed to make it big.
Could you explain point two in more detail? I know you said account, but I’m hoping by community might be a feature, where I could subscribe to c/android and it’d maybe fetch all the c/android’s across all fediverse instances?
The beehaw and world defederation (which I assume you are referencing) is temporary because beehaw believes the increased traffic cannot be moderated without proper mod tools.
And while you’re right about mainstream things like gaming or technology won’t have a single main community, I feel more niche communities will be able to setup their main communities. Obviouly that’s just my opinion, but there are some signs of that happening already. (c/piracy for example)
Instances will be judged on the subs they choose to host. Federating is a voluntary activity and defederating is the solution for other admins when one instance fails to keep their instance from turning into a Nazi bar.
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As time goes one community will emerge as the main one while other would dry up and naturally become obsolete (until people get angry with the mods of main one and start looking for alternative community, similar to how there are r/truegaming, r/true(x) etc for popular subreddits.)
There are many open PRs on lemmy github on how to aggregate similar communities. For example there is a suggestion of making an auto multireddit like thing, m/gaming for example, that would merge posts from every c/gaming community (not sure how this would work with defederation and stuff). With enough demand, something like that can be added to lemmy by an experienced dev.
People have been saying the same thing about 1. for years and now things are worse than ever.
How can there be one main community when instances keep defederating?
Things like defederation and having communities with the same topic on different instances are actually good things, they’re features of the Fediverse not problems.
It takes a bit of adapting to the Fediverse mindset as opposed to the centralized platform mindset but there are solutions:
How are users that aren’t interested in following the state of each community supposed to know which one is “on top” or the best community to post to or watch for relevant information? I don’t agree that making meta-level knowledge of the site mandatory to successfully navigating it is healthy or smart for the long term success of lemmy.
Look at c/all and see which communities consistently are at the top. If you like one community over the other, upvote and comment on that community’s posts.
How did you pick between Coke and Pepsi? You picked the one you liked. Choice is a good thing, I think you’re making this harder than it needs to be.
A lot of these arguments are starting to sound like Reddit is astroturfing around here.
A lot of people are fresh off of Reddit and are looking for an exact clone of Reddit, which is fair enough. They don’t understand Federation and think Lemmy needs to stop doing it, lol. Like, Squables is that way - - - >
The same way they have been doing it on reddit. You browse around, see a community that looks interesting and you subscribe. Notice that you have two related communities and you merge them in your client.
I mean, you need to know how a service works in order to use it effectively. Lemmy works a certain way and that’s that.
Not sure which you’re arguing for – that Lemmy should be simpler (I think it’s fairly simple for what it is) or that clients should be simpler (which is happening as we speak) – but either way it’s going to work out. Hell, Twitter’s mechanics are a lot less intuitive and it still managed to make it big.
Could you explain point two in more detail? I know you said account, but I’m hoping by community might be a feature, where I could subscribe to c/android and it’d maybe fetch all the c/android’s across all fediverse instances?
The beehaw and world defederation (which I assume you are referencing) is temporary because beehaw believes the increased traffic cannot be moderated without proper mod tools.
And while you’re right about mainstream things like gaming or technology won’t have a single main community, I feel more niche communities will be able to setup their main communities. Obviouly that’s just my opinion, but there are some signs of that happening already. (c/piracy for example)
Given instances can get defederated because of one sublemmy… pressing big X to doubt on that
Instances will be judged on the subs they choose to host. Federating is a voluntary activity and defederating is the solution for other admins when one instance fails to keep their instance from turning into a Nazi bar.
Man, I hope that doesn’t catch on.
Okay, it is a stupid name, I admit. Better alternative?
Lemmy already calls it a community. It’s all over the UI, code, everything. Why call it something else?
I like community 🙂.