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I already know the story of Pepe and the attempt at portraying it as a hate speech symbol. Almost everyone made fun of them when they first made that statement.
And the thing about Pepe is that he is a meme template. That means he can be used in any ideological statement, greentext story, copy-pasta or anything. It is very apparent that the ADL do not understand internet culture, and that’s why no one took their statement about pepe seriously. They have no idea what they’re talking about.
I made that exact statement in another thread on Lemmy before his video was even out, and it is the most obvious thing to point out so I doubt I was the first to do so either. And the way you phrase it makes it sound like you disagree with the argument. Do you consider pepe to be a dog whistle for racism? Because I think not even a small percentage of conspiracy theorists seriously do that. Or maybe you just want to argue with someone?
I haven’t downplayed death threats. It was a conversation where someome falsely alleged that someone else had received death threats, which had no evidence, and the person in question never even claimed they had received any.
The rest is just me calling out misinformation about black myth wukong (the sexism allegations that turned out to be mistranslations) and about the harassment campaing against Sweet Baby Inc, bias in gaming journalism, etc.
I’ve never taken a specific political stance in any of their conversations. I just am against misinformation and censorship and call them out when they happen.
The reason I’m against what your post is about, is because ADL were extremely dishonest in their findings, and I think they’re biased or politically motivated to implement restrictions that require users to give up more private information about themselves, or not be allowed free speech.
And no, I didn’t break any rules either. Every ban I’ve faced have all been completely unjustified, which is why I’ve blocked most of the communities I’ve been banned on. It’s like being banned from hexbear and you saying that makes me deserve to get my account removed. The little information you get out of that modlog only shows the mods being biased.
And you would know about biased mods, seeing as you yourself have been banned and then called out after making a thread about it. It isn’t all black and white. I’m not interested in who was right in that post, you or the mod, but you get my point.
Yes that is me, and no I am not a transphobe. The ghazi mods banned me because I said that someone losing a visa for something they said is fucked up. I didn’t even know who the person was who lost the visa or what they had done. I have never made any transphobic statements whatsoever, and you can dive deeper through the modlog to find evidence of that because it would show.
Also, I don’t appreciate you trying to cancel me just because I don’t agree with your post. We’re adults here.
ADL says steam was unsafe after stating that pepe the frog is an extremist symbol to more than double the number of cases found.
Remove the meme, and take into consideration the number of users, 0.1% of users have used some form of extreme symbol or statement. That is a lower ratio of extremism than what Lemmy has.
This is a reach for control and surveillance. Nothing else.
Fuck ADL.
I’ll have to make 3 major points here.
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I’m against DEI because it fundamentally goes against my core belief that everyone deserves the same opportunity. That we have equality. As long as we have equality, inclusion comes naturally. Diversity doesn’t necessarily, because gender and culture influences preferences, so groups will naturally flow towards certain professions and there is nothing wrong with that. The idea that there is a patriarchy gatekeeping professions is a conspiracy theory with no evidence.
DEI are corporate goals made so they can collect government funds and get tax breaks. Do you think these corpos give two shits about you? Equity is fundamentally discriminatory and labelling people based on their skincolor, gender, sexuality, and I’m very much against discrimination and this stereotyping mindset.
If I had the power to do so, I would enforce a blind equality policy that forbids corporations from asking or looking up the ethnicity, gender and sexuality of their candidates for jobs, and I would implement a central job hunting system where you take interviews and fill application without revealing anything about yourself that could be used to discriminate against you. A pure skill and vide testing system. That is equality. That is fair.
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Now about why DEI in games is considered bad. It really isn’t. But being preachy and focusing on it over the quality of the game itself ruins the fun. No one wants to be lectured about trans rights and feminism when they’re playing games. no one wants political agendas shoved down their throats, and that’s what the DEI detected group looks for.
Sure, there are some members going on some unhinged rant about how this one character is female, therefore game bad. As I said, there are hateful people in these groups too, but it’s not the core message. It’s the talking down to players, and presenting a one-dimensional ultimate truth or be racist kind of mentality that pisses people off.
BG3 has a diverse and inclusive story, but it isn’t DEI or woke, because it doesn’t preach it like the Bible at the expense of gameplay and writing quality like what the veilguard and Concord did.
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Finally about freedom of speech. Only someone who has never had their freedom of speech taken away would be against freedom of speech. Of course freedom of speech is fundamental. Of course there is no question whatsoever that we should have it, and of course freedom of speech will allow clashing ideals, that’s the point.
You cannot have an entity decide what the absolute truth is and label everyone against it a fascist or Nazi or sexist. That is what radicalizes the left and right. Twitter before Elon bought it radicalized the right, not X. X is the result of the radicalized right.
You think free speech brought Trump? Censorship brought Trump. The one-dimensional “my way or you’re a Nazi” camp brought Trump, and the radicalized right grew larger by being silenced. Now that they’ve grown so big that you no longer can silence them, Trump wins, and we will need free speech to defeat the far right.
I’m not far-right, I’m a social Democrat who grew up in Sweden. We are essentially on the same side but with different ideas on how to get to the same goal. Censorship ain’t it, fact-checking and calling out misinformation is. Steam doesn’t need moderation as much as it needs something like community notes, and the internet is in dire need of a platform that allowes users to easily call out misinformation and reward people who do, but for that we also need a platform that has all the facts and can link facts to arguments and help users come to a logical conclusion, and then we need a browser plugin that can reference these facts and warn users when misinformation is found. That is how you defeat the far right.
Because both the Palestinian communities and anti-DEI communities have legitimate core messages, and both have members that spread hate.
If you’re willing to let any community get taken down despite them breaking no rules or laws, accept that it also can happen to the communities you support. It is as simple as that.
Pepe the frog and swastikas are the most common extremist symbols found on Steam, according to the report, respectively representing 54.6% and 9.1% of detected symbols.
So more than half of the “extremist” symbols are a meme that a tiny fraction of conspiracy theorists think is a dogwhistle for racism.
Game mods are also touched on in the report, which claims to have found hundreds of mods for games, most notably Garry’s Mod, “that specifically reference mass shootings.”
Who even thinks this is a big deal? This screams boomers being upset about violent video games all over again.
Are you sure they’re not just pissy about the DEI Detected community and want to force steam to shut it down?
It is a nice concept in theory. It has a bit of resemblance to the metaverse minus monetary enshittification, but there are some challenges to this.
It would for example end up just as dead if the other players got bored of it and stopped playing. Then there is server costs for something where there really isn’t that much realtime interaction in, and all these metagames would need to be just as fun with a global time at a set flow, or be OK with synching only at the end of the day.
These of course aren’t impossible challenges.
You could leave the “online” part to a simple global api backend and skip the gameserver itself to greatly reduce costs. You wouldn’t see the other players in person but you’d see their shops grow each new day, and there could be an NPC of their owner walking around.
You could bankrupt inactive players and give their lands to new players, and implement import/export costs for distant shops incentivizing local trade. You’d probably still want normal NPCs, but their interactions would have to be predetermined each day if you don’t have a game server running all day, and want to prevent cheating.
The implementation difficulty and cost greatly varies depending on how much interaction and fairness you want, but setting up an API server is fairly easy if you don’t worry about scaling in case the game really takes off.
Just guessing, but maybe a 6.4 / 10 customer score. More copies sold than Concord, but not enough to go net positive. It looks polished so I doubt it’ll be overwhelmingly negative, but it just won’t be that interesting to gamers so most will probably just not buy it.
It’ll probably be review bombed in both directions.
Incorrect. It means that you pick the best candidate, and when they’re equal you don’t just choose the white man like we always have in the past.
That is not what is happening, and your scenario cannot happen unless by equal you mean based on a very shallow measurement. You’ll never find two people who are equally good. It also doesn’t say the program is for women, non-binary or skilled men. It excludes men entirely.
However, a straight white Christian man would likely never think of some of the things a gay Muslim would think of, because they have faced different issues and been taught different things.
I disagree with this view. “Only people of X can produce quality X” is just shallow thinking, and can in fact be used just as much as a counter argument like “only men can make quality games for gamers who are mostly male, so we should hire mostly men”. A straight white christian male can absolutely have similar views and ideas to a gay Muslim.
Also, if you’re hiring a gay Muslim over someone else just because they are gay and Muslim, how do you think that makes them feel knowing this?
But more importantly, what does gender, sex and ethnicity contribute to a team of programmers, which is half the workforce of gamedev?
In hiring, when asking for expert opinions, when looking for quality, the best gender is always “any”. The best sexual orientation is always “None of my business”, and the best race is always “Human”
Nope. It’s important to have a skilled workforce in gamedev. Hiring based on gender and sexuality means you purposefully pick lower skilled workers in order to fill a diversity quota. Being in gamedev and having lead a team of juniors I can say this with confidence. Skill and motivation is everything, and their genders and sexuality mean zero. In fact, you shouldn’t even see their genders or sexuality. Every worker regardless of background has a unique view, and can provide creative solutions without having to be reduced to their genders, sexuality, skin color.
Hiring based on gender and sexuality is discrimination, and illegal for a reason (and these companies get around it by using unpaid internships). It breeds hate and extremism.
Also, going to need to ask for some source of that claim of yours because historically the most creative and successful games have been made by entirely asian male teams or entirely white male teams, and games with diverse teams have been failing miserably.
It is unfortunately hard to convince someone once they’ve made up their mind.
But as long as people indifferent to the situation see my comment and get a fuller picture, I’m fine with it.
I tend to take a contrarian stance on a lot of things because if it turns out I’m wrong, people will correct me, and I learn something, so downvotes don’t bother me at all.
The studio refused an offer by Sweet Baby Inc of a 7m$ consultation. Right after that happened, games journalists like IGN started making articles accusing the studio of sexism. The “evidence” was several anonymous sources (in other words, made up, until at least one of them comes forward) and a few (possibly purposefully) mistranslated quotes that sound sexist in the mistranslations but are at most a little vulgar in the original language.
Even after the mistranslations were debunked, the journalists made no effort to retract or edit their articles, and as of today the only thing they have that could possibly paint the studio in a bad light are these anonymous sources but those cannot be verified and are therefore not valid. They’re likely completely made up.
Yes. This article is one of them. There is no evidence of sexism. Just a bunch of mistranslated messages that once properly translated aren’t sexist at all. IGN has already been called out for this, and the tweets have been community noted.
IGN did actually make a non-apology along the lines of “well they should have just commented on the accusations”, but the studio has no obligation responding to accusation from a bunch of people of some dying medium. Ignoring them is no doubt the best thing the studio can do.
Other journalists have since also made stories covering this and know that the statements are false so they started using weasel wording such as “sexist remarks being attributed to” instead of “they said”. It is so obvious that they’re doing this on purpose to hurt the reputation of the studio.
D4 bad. POE2 good.