I’ve always felt that Oneplus is a brand that I should like on principle of having clean software with barebones but powerful hardware, but in reality, every single Oneplus phone I’ve seen always had some sort of big BUTs attached to them, so buying Oneplus always feels like settling.
Take the Oneplus One for example, that sandstone textured cover was THE most creative material I felt a phone could have had, and I’m honestly shocked nobody has ever done it again. But along with that of course, comes with the cringy “smash your phone” marketing campaign, the half-hearted attempt to distance themselves from their parent company Oppo, the whole software mess with CyanogenMod/OxygenOS, etc.
Had a Oneplus 3T for a while, same deal: Great phone when it works as intended, but they raised their price without making the phone better, and the inexplicable random restarts/battery drain is so irritating, never had another phone that does that.
Recently they’ve dropped all pretense of not being Oppo and abandoned their core audience, choosing to have the “courage” to drop the headphone jack. Mediocre Chinese phones with flagship specs are a dime a dozen, I just don’t see a reason to buy them anymore.
I got a OnePlus Nord. I think they are pushing too many phones. They do like Xiaomi, they announce a phone, it doesn’t even have time to arrive in the stores that a new one is already announced. This is confusing as they need to resort to ridiculous naming like “OnePlus Nord 2 ce lite se 5g”. Stores can’t hold 100 identical phones that are differing only in the name. The store where i bought my Nord, dropped OnePlus entirely because “we already carry Oppo, vivo, realme, it’s the same brand”
And this reflects also in the updates. They can’t possibly continue to send updates with this many phones.
I like to get a phone that gets at least 3 years of updates, but in total for the bbk group it means supporting and testing 400 phone models at the same time? They have thousands of employees but they’re not enough , what happens is that software development is basically dropped as soon the new model comes out
Why can’t they do like Apple??? Just three phones per year. Easier to market, easier to support…
A lot of friends of mine have OnePlus for a reason, but I have personally stayed away since the data collection scandal in 2017 (https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/11/16457954/oneplus-phones-collecting-sensitive-data). I don’t trust Chinese phones in general very much because the government can force data collection very quickly but this is documented behavior by the company. I understand why developers use telemetry but everything but the most basic stuff should be opt in.
Used to be high spec and a low price. Now they’re average spec and an above-average price.
Nowadays phones are all pretty similar in price and spec, so I’d rather get a slightly more expensive phone from a company with proven, accessible warranty.
All tech is great when it works all the time. The problem is what happens when it stops working. Can you contact them? Where do you send it for repair? How long does that take? All that sort of thing.
I have a Samsung at the moment and have had Samsung’s for 6 or 7 years. I’ve only had minor issues with a few of them, and I’ve been able to visit a Samsung retailer / service centre to actually get them looked at in person.
So, proven reliability for my experience and ability to get it looked at in person is something that means I’m happy to pay more for the phone than I would be for other brands.
I owned a OnePlus One. Solid phone for the time. Sandstone back and degoogled CyanogenMod.
I got my wife the OnePlus X. Their first attempt at a premium phone. Buggy piece of shit crashed all the time. Google Keep would crash. Chrome would crash. This was reported by everyone, and instead of a fix, it was completely dropped by OnePlus after four months. Like, no updates or anything, because of an outdated chipset. No security patches or anything. Just pretend it never happened, sorry for your money. I sold both phones and went to iPhone.
OnePlus, the supposed best Android phone, sent me to Apple for like a half decade after that. And this was pretty early on in their game, like 2016 or so. I missed out on everything up until now, I have no point of reference on upside down displays and ColorOS vs OxygenOS or whatever. I’ve never been screwed over by trading in a phone to OnePlus and have them come back and take half the value back due to OLED burn-in, because I got away from OnePlus before any of this was even a thing.
Years later, I ended up back on Android and lo and behold, I have a OnePlus phone as a backup. Nord N300 5g or something like that. It came out a few weeks ago but I got it a little earlier than that due to some TikTok thing. It was cheap, it has a good camera, an LCD screen and Android 13. I like the OS better than stock Android (Nokia X20, XR20, Pixel 7 and FairPhone 4 for comparison). I know exactly what I have and I don’t expect much from it, so it is kind of not bad to use. Updates are decent, I’m on a May security patch. The software and overall experience is better than any of the recent Nokia’s I’ve owned (pure trash brand, don’t get me started).
So at the low end, it’s not a bad proposition. Really nothing bad to say about the new phone. It does what I need, has an SD card and 3.5mm jack and an LCD panel. Caveat this: I am not a premium phone user anymore (the last maxed out spec phone I got was a red iPhone 8+ in 2018), so I can’t compare OP11 or OP12 or whatever and won’t get anything with an OLED screen if I don’t have to.
I just moved away from my 7T onto a Pixel 7. I love my 7T. It was definitely my favorite phone. But it seems like things have changed lately and the newer OnePlus phones aren’t what they used to be. I still use my 7T as a game and media player for when I’m chilling in bed.
I did a similar 7 pro to 7 pro (OnePlus to Pixel) move. It was striking how much better the camera is, and at this point I’d be hard-pressed to go back to OnePlus. I had a OnePlus 3 before the 7 Pro and it also had a crummy camera. The Pixel software experience also feels a little more polished (but only just) and the voice recognition absolutely wipes the floor with the OnePlus.
Fully agree. I still have my 7T Pro, and I’m not looking forward to upgrading it when I have to! I loved when it was a simple upgrade on base android, but with the newer versions, it has veered away from that. I’m disappointed with the updates - I haven’t done the latest update as lots of people are complaining that it’s very buggy, and it doesn’t look like they are going to update it again.
I don’t think I’d go for a OnePlus again - I’d probably go with something more stock, with hopefully more reliable updates, like a Pixel.
You summed up my feelings on OnePlus perfectly. There was a time I liked their phones (purely because they offered great hardware and a barebones Android experience) but then their devices progressively got worse in every single way. Now, not a single one of their overpriced phones is worth buying.
Do you have a problem that they’re “just Oppo” now? I bought an Oppo phone on a bit of a whim when my last phone died and I’m a bit of a convert. The software is great - clean, unobtrusive and full of useful features, the weird features can be disabled. I even switched from Nova back to the default Oppo launcher and it’s fine, certainly not as configurable and I don’t like how the inbuilt search recommends store apps, but it’s perfectly cromulent.
Given my experience with Oppo I’d have no qualms about choosing Oppo or OnePlus as my next phone. RealMe, BBK’s other brand, I’d need to research first as their value proposition seems even more insane than Oppo…
I don’t have a problem with them being Oppo, Oppo makes good products. (BTW, I’m still mad Oppo NA shut down so there’s nowhere to get a new HA-2SE or PM-1 now) What I have a problem with is that 1+ was trying so hard to pretend to NOT be Oppo at first.
I don’t like them. I think they are trying to be Apple and I hate that because it means higher prices, fewer features. No headphone jack, no SD card slot, no dual SIM, high prices.
That’s not meant to be the Android way. Android is all about choice and options. That’s what I love about Sony, and why I have a Sony Xperia 10iii - they give you more: award winning design, sleek form factor, fantastic cameras, headphone jack, SD card slot, dual SIM, waterproofing, easily removable SIM tray, notification LED, battery care, long battery life, great OLED screen, NFC, HiRes audio on wired and wireless, MP3 upscale to improve music quality on MP3 tracks, great video recording (up to 4K on mine), support app built in, fast stock launcher will little bloat. I’m even a fan of the dedication Google Assistant button and use it all the time.
And the price was great because I got it on sale for just €350.
That’s how Android should be: options, choice, value for money
Edit: I forgot to mention that Sony allows unlocking the bootloader if you want to install other ROM’s like Sailfish, Lineage etc
Is it just me that reads “award winning design” and instantly mentally classifies a post as “likely marketing”?!
WTF is the value for a customer if their phone’s design has received awards?
I mean, does any genuine human out there choose the looks of their phone based on the awards it got rather than, you know, personally likeing said looks???!
I stopped reading out of habit as soon as I got to the “award winning design” and “form factor”. Such marketing buzzwords are usually a good sign telling me that part of the text has no valuable information and should be skipped.
I hadn’t even noticed this habit and I have no idea when it started. I wonder what other subconscious reading optimizations I’ve made, and how they might impact the type of information I read without me realizing it…
I’m typing this from a 6t. No complaints with it so far, it’s far enough in that I need to replace the battery but that’s to be expected. The 6gb of ram has proved to be really helpful in ensuring that things always work and the dual sim has let me combine the work and personal phones into one.
I know it’s long in the tooth so if anyone has some recommendations for a replacement that has dual sim and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg please reply!
Have a Oneplus 7 Pro, first Oneplus phone I’ve owned and it will be the last. Absolutely love the phone itself, but Oneplus as a company, the software they package, the warranty issues, and the direction they’ve gone as a value pick have all fallen off a cliff since it was produced, and have turned me off to ever upgrading to one of their newer models. That’s fine for me though, I have replacement parts on-hand, and a third-party actually maintained rom, so I’m OP7P until the wheels fall off this thing.
Edit: Can’t comment with experience on other OP phones, but I’ve heard very good things about the 6s, it was my second pick when I was looking for a phone at the time.
My 5T has been my daily driver for years. I’ve replaced the battery & USB port on it once so far, and that’s it. I’ve also run LineageOS (rooted + Magisk) since day 1, which I agree is its own set of challenges. Seriously no complaints and I’m not really shopping for anything more right now.
If the Fairphone 5 specs are solid I may take the plunge, but for my needs nothing else out there has been compelling enough to make a change.
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My wife loves them, I don’t care for them though. I used lg phones until they gave up so oneolus was never really my thing.
I got a OnePlus Nord. I think they are pushing too many phones. They do like Xiaomi, they announce a phone, it doesn’t even have time to arrive in the stores that a new one is already announced. This is confusing as they need to resort to ridiculous naming like “OnePlus Nord 2 ce lite se 5g”. Stores can’t hold 100 identical phones that are differing only in the name. The store where i bought my Nord, dropped OnePlus entirely because “we already carry Oppo, vivo, realme, it’s the same brand”
And this reflects also in the updates. They can’t possibly continue to send updates with this many phones.
I like to get a phone that gets at least 3 years of updates, but in total for the bbk group it means supporting and testing 400 phone models at the same time? They have thousands of employees but they’re not enough , what happens is that software development is basically dropped as soon the new model comes out
Why can’t they do like Apple??? Just three phones per year. Easier to market, easier to support…
A lot of friends of mine have OnePlus for a reason, but I have personally stayed away since the data collection scandal in 2017 (https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/10/11/16457954/oneplus-phones-collecting-sensitive-data). I don’t trust Chinese phones in general very much because the government can force data collection very quickly but this is documented behavior by the company. I understand why developers use telemetry but everything but the most basic stuff should be opt in.
Used to be high spec and a low price. Now they’re average spec and an above-average price.
Nowadays phones are all pretty similar in price and spec, so I’d rather get a slightly more expensive phone from a company with proven, accessible warranty.
I’m using a OnePlus 6 right now. I’ve never had a problem, and I’ll probably stick with the brand.
All tech is great when it works all the time. The problem is what happens when it stops working. Can you contact them? Where do you send it for repair? How long does that take? All that sort of thing.
What do you use now, or what would you recommend instead?
I have a Samsung at the moment and have had Samsung’s for 6 or 7 years. I’ve only had minor issues with a few of them, and I’ve been able to visit a Samsung retailer / service centre to actually get them looked at in person.
So, proven reliability for my experience and ability to get it looked at in person is something that means I’m happy to pay more for the phone than I would be for other brands.
I think Oneplus is a proven company, it’s just that they’ve always proved themselves to be mediocre.
I owned a OnePlus One. Solid phone for the time. Sandstone back and degoogled CyanogenMod.
I got my wife the OnePlus X. Their first attempt at a premium phone. Buggy piece of shit crashed all the time. Google Keep would crash. Chrome would crash. This was reported by everyone, and instead of a fix, it was completely dropped by OnePlus after four months. Like, no updates or anything, because of an outdated chipset. No security patches or anything. Just pretend it never happened, sorry for your money. I sold both phones and went to iPhone.
OnePlus, the supposed best Android phone, sent me to Apple for like a half decade after that. And this was pretty early on in their game, like 2016 or so. I missed out on everything up until now, I have no point of reference on upside down displays and ColorOS vs OxygenOS or whatever. I’ve never been screwed over by trading in a phone to OnePlus and have them come back and take half the value back due to OLED burn-in, because I got away from OnePlus before any of this was even a thing.
Years later, I ended up back on Android and lo and behold, I have a OnePlus phone as a backup. Nord N300 5g or something like that. It came out a few weeks ago but I got it a little earlier than that due to some TikTok thing. It was cheap, it has a good camera, an LCD screen and Android 13. I like the OS better than stock Android (Nokia X20, XR20, Pixel 7 and FairPhone 4 for comparison). I know exactly what I have and I don’t expect much from it, so it is kind of not bad to use. Updates are decent, I’m on a May security patch. The software and overall experience is better than any of the recent Nokia’s I’ve owned (pure trash brand, don’t get me started).
So at the low end, it’s not a bad proposition. Really nothing bad to say about the new phone. It does what I need, has an SD card and 3.5mm jack and an LCD panel. Caveat this: I am not a premium phone user anymore (the last maxed out spec phone I got was a red iPhone 8+ in 2018), so I can’t compare OP11 or OP12 or whatever and won’t get anything with an OLED screen if I don’t have to.
I just moved away from my 7T onto a Pixel 7. I love my 7T. It was definitely my favorite phone. But it seems like things have changed lately and the newer OnePlus phones aren’t what they used to be. I still use my 7T as a game and media player for when I’m chilling in bed.
I did a similar 7 pro to 7 pro (OnePlus to Pixel) move. It was striking how much better the camera is, and at this point I’d be hard-pressed to go back to OnePlus. I had a OnePlus 3 before the 7 Pro and it also had a crummy camera. The Pixel software experience also feels a little more polished (but only just) and the voice recognition absolutely wipes the floor with the OnePlus.
Fully agree. I still have my 7T Pro, and I’m not looking forward to upgrading it when I have to! I loved when it was a simple upgrade on base android, but with the newer versions, it has veered away from that. I’m disappointed with the updates - I haven’t done the latest update as lots of people are complaining that it’s very buggy, and it doesn’t look like they are going to update it again.
I don’t think I’d go for a OnePlus again - I’d probably go with something more stock, with hopefully more reliable updates, like a Pixel.
I used to love them.
I “won” the opportunity to get the OnePlus One.
Was such a great device, I love flashing ROMs on it, even got the bamboo back.
Pretty much every device since the first has been just a slow transition into being your average phone OEM.
They are nothing special anymore.
And now that other OEMs have less crappy skins (and OnePlus’ skin got worse) there’s really no reason to buy them anymore.
Kinda sad.
Kinda like reddit, I suppose.
You summed up my feelings on OnePlus perfectly. There was a time I liked their phones (purely because they offered great hardware and a barebones Android experience) but then their devices progressively got worse in every single way. Now, not a single one of their overpriced phones is worth buying.
Do you have a problem that they’re “just Oppo” now? I bought an Oppo phone on a bit of a whim when my last phone died and I’m a bit of a convert. The software is great - clean, unobtrusive and full of useful features, the weird features can be disabled. I even switched from Nova back to the default Oppo launcher and it’s fine, certainly not as configurable and I don’t like how the inbuilt search recommends store apps, but it’s perfectly cromulent.
Given my experience with Oppo I’d have no qualms about choosing Oppo or OnePlus as my next phone. RealMe, BBK’s other brand, I’d need to research first as their value proposition seems even more insane than Oppo…
I don’t have a problem with them being Oppo, Oppo makes good products. (BTW, I’m still mad Oppo NA shut down so there’s nowhere to get a new HA-2SE or PM-1 now) What I have a problem with is that 1+ was trying so hard to pretend to NOT be Oppo at first.
I don’t like them. I think they are trying to be Apple and I hate that because it means higher prices, fewer features. No headphone jack, no SD card slot, no dual SIM, high prices.
That’s not meant to be the Android way. Android is all about choice and options. That’s what I love about Sony, and why I have a Sony Xperia 10iii - they give you more: award winning design, sleek form factor, fantastic cameras, headphone jack, SD card slot, dual SIM, waterproofing, easily removable SIM tray, notification LED, battery care, long battery life, great OLED screen, NFC, HiRes audio on wired and wireless, MP3 upscale to improve music quality on MP3 tracks, great video recording (up to 4K on mine), support app built in, fast stock launcher will little bloat. I’m even a fan of the dedication Google Assistant button and use it all the time.
And the price was great because I got it on sale for just €350.
That’s how Android should be: options, choice, value for money
Edit: I forgot to mention that Sony allows unlocking the bootloader if you want to install other ROM’s like Sailfish, Lineage etc
Is it just me that reads “award winning design” and instantly mentally classifies a post as “likely marketing”?!
WTF is the value for a customer if their phone’s design has received awards?
I mean, does any genuine human out there choose the looks of their phone based on the awards it got rather than, you know, personally likeing said looks???!
I stopped reading out of habit as soon as I got to the “award winning design” and “form factor”. Such marketing buzzwords are usually a good sign telling me that part of the text has no valuable information and should be skipped.
I hadn’t even noticed this habit and I have no idea when it started. I wonder what other subconscious reading optimizations I’ve made, and how they might impact the type of information I read without me realizing it…
We’ll do Sony some other time. Promise.
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Typing this comment on one right now
I’m typing this from a 6t. No complaints with it so far, it’s far enough in that I need to replace the battery but that’s to be expected. The 6gb of ram has proved to be really helpful in ensuring that things always work and the dual sim has let me combine the work and personal phones into one.
I know it’s long in the tooth so if anyone has some recommendations for a replacement that has dual sim and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg please reply!
Maybe wait for the Zenfone 10?
Thanks, I’ll keep an eye on it.
Have a Oneplus 7 Pro, first Oneplus phone I’ve owned and it will be the last. Absolutely love the phone itself, but Oneplus as a company, the software they package, the warranty issues, and the direction they’ve gone as a value pick have all fallen off a cliff since it was produced, and have turned me off to ever upgrading to one of their newer models. That’s fine for me though, I have replacement parts on-hand, and a third-party actually maintained rom, so I’m OP7P until the wheels fall off this thing.
Edit: Can’t comment with experience on other OP phones, but I’ve heard very good things about the 6s, it was my second pick when I was looking for a phone at the time.
My 5T has been my daily driver for years. I’ve replaced the battery & USB port on it once so far, and that’s it. I’ve also run LineageOS (rooted + Magisk) since day 1, which I agree is its own set of challenges. Seriously no complaints and I’m not really shopping for anything more right now.
If the Fairphone 5 specs are solid I may take the plunge, but for my needs nothing else out there has been compelling enough to make a change.
I’ve always been thinking about switching to a 3rd party OS, but been kindof wary due to bank apps and such. Do they work with LineageOS as well?
I use my bank apps and GPay without too many issues. There’s a checklist to follow for Lineage + Magisk + some modules & settings, but it works.
Some hotel apps won’t work, but I don’t stay at those places often enough to matter.
Alright, thanks 👍
Poco is better