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It's almost time! Thunderbird 115 Supernova releases at noon PST / 3pm EST / 9pm CEST.
(Less than an hour from right now!)
Textual words from them:
It’s our first step towards a more modern, more beautiful, and more customizable Thunderbird experience. We think you’re going to love it, and we are endlessly grateful for all of your support throughout the years 💙
I’ve used thunderbird pretty much from the start, for the last 20 years or so. The UI was looking a bit dated, lately, so I’m really looking forward to this. The next thing we need is better performance (I may suffer more than most as I have literally hundreds of thousands of messages and dozens of folders on the imap server). Fingers crossed!
Looks nice. I’m not an email power user but I still use Thunderbird just to handle multiple accounts. I’m grateful to this software for simplifying my life a bit.
I recently went back to using Thunderbird after not doing so for, I don’t know, maybe a decade. Having everything in one place is very convenient indeed.
I was gonna say, I tried it a couple months ago and I’m pretty sure it hadn’t been changed since when I was using it in like 2012. I thought a theme might help so I checked out the available themes, and the “popular” ones were ones that felt like they were from back then too. Everyone remembers Firefox / Thunderbird themes from back then: frosted glass, photos of space, flames, lots of gradients, themes that look like wood for some reason, that gross red text on black-white gradient background. It was like the entire app was aesthetically trapped in the early 2010s, even the community’s themes.
I’ve tried Thunderbird and wasn’t convinced… My work life is basically email, and I’ve tried several email apps over the years, a lot more than most people. I’ve found Postbox on desktop and Spark on mobile to be the magic pair for me so far. Unless Postbox fails me, I don’t think I’ll bother trying anything else anytime soon… Though I’m open to suggestions for mobile, since there’s room for improvement with Spark.
Looks very gnome. Sadly I use KDE so it still looks like a foreign object, just like Firefox. I want native app to look like native apps, is that too much to ask?
Let’s say it’s a lot to ask, especially when the app also needs to be crossplatform and behave functionally the same on all platforms.
Maybe it could be done, in theory, with a lot of work, but it’s definitely not at all an easy task, especially for a project that seemed dead and buried just a few years ago and with just a handful of volunteer devs.
Most crossplatform apps that I can think of don’t really look like native apps in any system. I’m thinking of Chromium, VSCode, Discord, Steam etc.
The only one I can think of right now is Whatsapp, but I’m pretty sure they actually developed three independent apps and maintain all three, for Android, iOS and Windows. They all look and feel like native apps because they are. Please tell me if I’m wrong.
Still, you can’t expect all, or even most developers to do something like that, especially when you start including all the different DEs and themes and so on.
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I’ve used thunderbird pretty much from the start, for the last 20 years or so. The UI was looking a bit dated, lately, so I’m really looking forward to this. The next thing we need is better performance (I may suffer more than most as I have literally hundreds of thousands of messages and dozens of folders on the imap server). Fingers crossed!
Looks nice. I’m not an email power user but I still use Thunderbird just to handle multiple accounts. I’m grateful to this software for simplifying my life a bit.
I recently went back to using Thunderbird after not doing so for, I don’t know, maybe a decade. Having everything in one place is very convenient indeed.
Why the hell can’t I get that side by side view?
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1217722
Change it to “Vertical”, if that’s what you mean.
Yes thank you! My god that was driving me crazy
It’s well past 15:00 EST and the version I get when downloading is 102.13.0 for some reason.
It took one release for Thunderbird to go from a pretty ancient looking program to one of the best looking ones out there.
Is there now conversation view without having to use an extension?
no, and the old plugin is not supported.
Oh, that really sucks…
Getting a native conversation view should be a focus for them!
Yes, this and the insane privileges that the extensions require, no idea how they set their priorities.
Hopefully after this they focus on the IOS app! Would love to consolidate so many different chat, email, and rss readers into one app!
I used Thunderbird about 10 years ago? Looks amazing compared to what I remember.
I used Thubderbird about 10 minutes ago and this indeed looks amazing compared to what I remember.Edit; how to downgrade to the version? why still no conversation view? 😭
Great. Downgrading deleted my profile. Thanks a lot for the constant “innovation”,gonna take me hours to set thst shit up again.
Edit 2; no matter how frustrated you are with thunderbird, DO NOT INSTALL OUTLOOK
If you downgrade, expect glitches with your too new profile. Obviously it’s not going to be backwards-compatible.
You’re a moron lol
just copy over your profile backup that you certainly created beforehand
It looked almost the same as the last time tou used it just before this version. Which means this is an absolutely huge step forward for the UI
I was gonna say, I tried it a couple months ago and I’m pretty sure it hadn’t been changed since when I was using it in like 2012. I thought a theme might help so I checked out the available themes, and the “popular” ones were ones that felt like they were from back then too. Everyone remembers Firefox / Thunderbird themes from back then: frosted glass, photos of space, flames, lots of gradients, themes that look like wood for some reason, that gross red text on black-white gradient background. It was like the entire app was aesthetically trapped in the early 2010s, even the community’s themes.
I’ve tried Thunderbird and wasn’t convinced… My work life is basically email, and I’ve tried several email apps over the years, a lot more than most people. I’ve found Postbox on desktop and Spark on mobile to be the magic pair for me so far. Unless Postbox fails me, I don’t think I’ll bother trying anything else anytime soon… Though I’m open to suggestions for mobile, since there’s room for improvement with Spark.
Just finished setting up thunderbird. The new design looks amazing! Although it has some UX problems, I hope they’ll get resolved along the way.
Overall, pleased, and migrated all of my inboxes to it!
This looks great. Would be awesome if i could host this in a docmer container so i dont need to manage installs on clients.
I think it might be time for an intervention, thats some serious Docker addiction lol.
Oh ya im addicted for sure
That’s what Ansible is for. Stuffing a gui app in a container still leaves you with the job of actually having to deploy it, anyway.
Good idea, ill look into that. Been meaning to learn ansible for some time now anyways.
That definitely looks different. I assume they still haven’t put the system tray functionality back?
@DarkThoughts @kr0n
they did !
I may try Thunderbird again. Only thing I do not like about the screenshots is the far left toolbar, but I will still check it out.
Thankfully you can hide it. The new UI is pretty customizable.
Outlook is trying to force that on users as well…it’s really a waste of screen real estate for those of us who never use that toolbar.
The thin one that navigates between calendar, contacts, etc? That’s always been there in thunderbird.
I guess I must have always had it collapsed. In the new Outlook, they removed the option to remove or collapse it.
I just tried it out. Good that it allows you to collapse it.
Looks very gnome. Sadly I use KDE so it still looks like a foreign object, just like Firefox. I want native app to look like native apps, is that too much to ask?
Let’s say it’s a lot to ask, especially when the app also needs to be crossplatform and behave functionally the same on all platforms.
Maybe it could be done, in theory, with a lot of work, but it’s definitely not at all an easy task, especially for a project that seemed dead and buried just a few years ago and with just a handful of volunteer devs.
Most crossplatform apps that I can think of don’t really look like native apps in any system. I’m thinking of Chromium, VSCode, Discord, Steam etc.
The only one I can think of right now is Whatsapp, but I’m pretty sure they actually developed three independent apps and maintain all three, for Android, iOS and Windows. They all look and feel like native apps because they are. Please tell me if I’m wrong.
Still, you can’t expect all, or even most developers to do something like that, especially when you start including all the different DEs and themes and so on.
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