I said it somewhere else, but I think Valve actually did factor in wishlist counts. The problem is in the percentage of those that convert to sales. For games, the median conversion rate is 10% to 20% of wishlists converting to sales within the first week. I expect the Steam Controller’s conversion rate was much higher.
Valve may have even tried anticipating this from Deck sales and still failed to account for the Deck conversion rate still being lower due to the greater price.
Yeah I have 500+ games on my wishlist. Just to keep track of specific games. Stuff has been on there for years.
I do wonder how many Steam Deck owners would also want the controller and what the ratio is. There’s how many Steam Deck owners? 3-4 million? Even if 5% of those wanted a controller that’s 200k. 25% is almost a million. And then there’s the people that only want the controller for their PC/HTPC, others potentially buying for their future Steam Machine…
I would guestimate 2 million controllers on the conservative side, 6 million on the other end.
I do wonder if they expected 5 million and demand is over 10 million…or more…would explain the OOS and lack of a reserve system if they thought they’d had enough.
This is definitely true for me. I have the controller and Frame on my wishlist. Bought the controller day one, but if I ever buy the Frame it will likely be years down the line. 100€ is in the price range I don’t have to think much about, but over 1000€ (I don’t believe they will be able to keep the promise of not making it more expensive than the Index) not so much.
Yep, it’s a complete mess to try to predict. Despite both the Frame and Machine being in my wishlist and expected to come in around the same general price, I’m buying the Frame day one while the Machine may stay on hold indefinitely. I’ve been all in on VR since the Vive, but I’ve got better PCs than the Machine already, so my interest in it is more just for its novelty. Nothing about my wishlist status tells Valve any of that though.
Yea for me the controller solves a lot of what I need from controllers and fits right at the price I don’t have to wait for, while the frame I buy when I am set for it since it’s the perfect upgrade for me for a long time. The machine is on my wishlist as a console idea if I ever want it. Each are wishlist, but have a very different priority.
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I said it somewhere else, but I think Valve actually did factor in wishlist counts. The problem is in the percentage of those that convert to sales. For games, the median conversion rate is 10% to 20% of wishlists converting to sales within the first week. I expect the Steam Controller’s conversion rate was much higher.
Valve may have even tried anticipating this from Deck sales and still failed to account for the Deck conversion rate still being lower due to the greater price.
Yeah I have 500+ games on my wishlist. Just to keep track of specific games. Stuff has been on there for years.
I do wonder how many Steam Deck owners would also want the controller and what the ratio is. There’s how many Steam Deck owners? 3-4 million? Even if 5% of those wanted a controller that’s 200k. 25% is almost a million. And then there’s the people that only want the controller for their PC/HTPC, others potentially buying for their future Steam Machine…
I would guestimate 2 million controllers on the conservative side, 6 million on the other end.
I do wonder if they expected 5 million and demand is over 10 million…or more…would explain the OOS and lack of a reserve system if they thought they’d had enough.
This is definitely true for me. I have the controller and Frame on my wishlist. Bought the controller day one, but if I ever buy the Frame it will likely be years down the line. 100€ is in the price range I don’t have to think much about, but over 1000€ (I don’t believe they will be able to keep the promise of not making it more expensive than the Index) not so much.
Yep, it’s a complete mess to try to predict. Despite both the Frame and Machine being in my wishlist and expected to come in around the same general price, I’m buying the Frame day one while the Machine may stay on hold indefinitely. I’ve been all in on VR since the Vive, but I’ve got better PCs than the Machine already, so my interest in it is more just for its novelty. Nothing about my wishlist status tells Valve any of that though.
Yea for me the controller solves a lot of what I need from controllers and fits right at the price I don’t have to wait for, while the frame I buy when I am set for it since it’s the perfect upgrade for me for a long time. The machine is on my wishlist as a console idea if I ever want it. Each are wishlist, but have a very different priority.