Someone else probably can give better context, but basically Framework donated money to one project that had some controversy (I never actually saw much evidence for it being severe enough to really cause the type of backlash that Framework got) and repeatedly and disproportionately promoted another project by someone who seemingly to want mass deportation of brown people in London/UK and promotes such with the platform. Someone called framework on those two things and the CEO’s response on their forum was a “we want to run a big OOS tent” and then went to xitter to whine about the community being mean to them.
It’s a bad time to learn that hyprland community is toxic. I’ve used it for a long while now pretty comfortably.
Seeing Framework give money to DHH is like watching someone step on a rake and defending it.
I’m tired of idiots who defend anything as long as they like it, and only care about morality when they’re offended.
I saw the same thing happen with popular new game Mewgenics where creator of Binding of Isaac, Edmund, defended including Chris Chan, who couldn’t be found guilty of SA’ing their demented mother on account of their autism.
It’s not only decision but the defense that makes these things look bad. They need to give money to fascists. They need to include controversial people. The people who defend it seem like they perceive criticism as personal attacks and retaliate in bad faith arguments.
At this point I’m venting. Lemmy is great because it tends to attract people who are less pressured to conform to their tribes, which is great for having authentic discussions.
I mean if just the community is toxic I just wouldn’t participate - if it’s some negative trait is that. I can use a tool and not contribute to that toxicity.
But for moral issues like supporting a project that I’m turn supports fascism, homophobia, etc. I will protest by simply not bring a user. I don’t make this part of my identity, I probably should though - I don’t check these things, I only find out.
It’s a bummer too because I was planning on getting a framework laptop. Wound up just getting another Lenovo business laptop secondhand lol.
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Someone else probably can give better context, but basically Framework donated money to one project that had some controversy (I never actually saw much evidence for it being severe enough to really cause the type of backlash that Framework got) and repeatedly and disproportionately promoted another project by someone who seemingly to want mass deportation of brown people in London/UK and promotes such with the platform. Someone called framework on those two things and the CEO’s response on their forum was a “we want to run a big OOS tent” and then went to xitter to whine about the community being mean to them.
If you have… Time, the forum post has a lot of the context and drama: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986
It’s a bad time to learn that hyprland community is toxic. I’ve used it for a long while now pretty comfortably.
Seeing Framework give money to DHH is like watching someone step on a rake and defending it.
I’m tired of idiots who defend anything as long as they like it, and only care about morality when they’re offended.
I saw the same thing happen with popular new game Mewgenics where creator of Binding of Isaac, Edmund, defended including Chris Chan, who couldn’t be found guilty of SA’ing their demented mother on account of their autism.
It’s not only decision but the defense that makes these things look bad. They need to give money to fascists. They need to include controversial people. The people who defend it seem like they perceive criticism as personal attacks and retaliate in bad faith arguments.
At this point I’m venting. Lemmy is great because it tends to attract people who are less pressured to conform to their tribes, which is great for having authentic discussions.
I mean if just the community is toxic I just wouldn’t participate - if it’s some negative trait is that. I can use a tool and not contribute to that toxicity.
But for moral issues like supporting a project that I’m turn supports fascism, homophobia, etc. I will protest by simply not bring a user. I don’t make this part of my identity, I probably should though - I don’t check these things, I only find out.
It’s a bummer too because I was planning on getting a framework laptop. Wound up just getting another Lenovo business laptop secondhand lol.
JFC