I’m going to get downvoted but honestly I’m not 100% against some form of digital ID. I don’t think these half baked, unthought through state laws and patchwork state systems are anyway way to go about it though and they certainly do not have enough safeguards in their laws to limit surveillance which I’m sure there are those who crafted the laws to intentionally leave that out and they certainly didn’t have any inkling of cybersecurity in mind when they proposed these laws.
I mean we in the modern age already have a crap ton of digital ID’s flying around using our NFC enabled devices and 2FA systems commercially and we mostly don’t blink a single eye on these systems and generally regard them as a safer alternative now. And let’s not pretend that these corporations aren’t tracking the living heck out of us already with this.
I’m a bit of a privacy advocate/cypherpunk and I agree with you.
The problem is companies should never need know this information except what is absolutely necessary for business. Like if they ship you something, they need to know your name and address (and that could even go away with Japan’s model where you just give a code and the post office only knows your address, but I digress).
Another thing is that age verification technologies already exist in such a way that the government doesn’t know what you’re accessing, and the company only knows you’re above 18 and nothing else. These are called Zero Knowledge Proofs.
But since the technology exists, the government isn’t utilising it, and instead doing some moral panic “Think of the children!!!1” and setting up mass surveillance and data harvesting, I watch what they do, not what they say.
You’re right, you will definitely get downvoted with that opinion. The corpos sucking up data to track and advertise and whatever else is annoying, and i don’t want to make it even easier for them. And i definitely don’t want to help my shitass government round up undesirables any easier than they already can (including from those corpos…). There are no positives that i care about from an actual digital id. Privacy is harder and harder to come by everywhere in life, i don’t want to give an ID to use discord, steam, lemmy, or anything else.
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I’m going to get downvoted but honestly I’m not 100% against some form of digital ID. I don’t think these half baked, unthought through state laws and patchwork state systems are anyway way to go about it though and they certainly do not have enough safeguards in their laws to limit surveillance which I’m sure there are those who crafted the laws to intentionally leave that out and they certainly didn’t have any inkling of cybersecurity in mind when they proposed these laws.
I mean we in the modern age already have a crap ton of digital ID’s flying around using our NFC enabled devices and 2FA systems commercially and we mostly don’t blink a single eye on these systems and generally regard them as a safer alternative now. And let’s not pretend that these corporations aren’t tracking the living heck out of us already with this.
I’m a bit of a privacy advocate/cypherpunk and I agree with you.
The problem is companies should never need know this information except what is absolutely necessary for business. Like if they ship you something, they need to know your name and address (and that could even go away with Japan’s model where you just give a code and the post office only knows your address, but I digress).
Another thing is that age verification technologies already exist in such a way that the government doesn’t know what you’re accessing, and the company only knows you’re above 18 and nothing else. These are called Zero Knowledge Proofs.
But since the technology exists, the government isn’t utilising it, and instead doing some moral panic “Think of the children!!!1” and setting up mass surveillance and data harvesting, I watch what they do, not what they say.
You’re right, you will definitely get downvoted with that opinion. The corpos sucking up data to track and advertise and whatever else is annoying, and i don’t want to make it even easier for them. And i definitely don’t want to help my shitass government round up undesirables any easier than they already can (including from those corpos…). There are no positives that i care about from an actual digital id. Privacy is harder and harder to come by everywhere in life, i don’t want to give an ID to use discord, steam, lemmy, or anything else.