There's a bit of drama going on with the popular game manager Lutris right now, with users pointing out the developer using AI generated code via Claude.
Whether or not I use Claude is not going to change society, this requires changes at a deeper level, and we all know that nothing is going to improve with the current US administration.
I mean yeah, that’s true. Why waste energy harassing developers of libre software for using AI? That’s not going to have any impact on big tech.
The point of drawing a line is to make a clear distinction between acceptable and unacceptable. If you just move the line when it’s convenient then it means nothing.
Dude, you’re on Lemmy. Do you not realize how many people on here are saying “fuck it, let’s drop Google and Microslop and stick with FLOSS”? How many people on here are trying to convince others to switch too?
These people are already doing what they can to steer the entire tech space in the right direction. But it’s hard to influence the giants directly. To do that, you need good FLOSS alternatives, which doesn’t work if those alternatives start riddling themselves with slop
People simply do not want AI. They don’t want to look at AI “art”, don’t want to listen to AI “music”, don’t want to read AI “books” and don’t want to use AI slopware.
This is both a matter of quality and, more importantly, principles.
And I think it’s safe to say that people in the open source community are more ideological than most. Finding out that a project is relying on exploitative corporate slop of an unknown origin is like the hippy going to the farmer’s market only to find that the guy selling “his local organic free-range cage-free” eggs is just buying factory shit from the supermarket.
I didn’t think anyone blames the Lutris guy for AI at large.
But people are passionate about things and they don’t want to support a project that they perceive is being thoughtlessly programmed, exploiting the labor of others, violating the letter or the spirit of the GPL, supporting a corrupt industry, etc.
Thank you. It’s so infuriating to come into threads like this to find “If you don’t like it, do it yourself” and shit like that. All it does is remove blame from the person making an ignorant decision, and place it on those rightfully upset because “Maybe the dev wouldn’t have been forced to use the environment destroying plagiarism machine if you have been more generous with your time.”
Yeah. But ultimately people will have to fork Lutris, or just use something else (like Faugus, Bottles, Steam, etc.), if they don’t like how things are being run.
Oh for sure, that’s one the benefits of open source stuff, you can do that in the first place. I just mean that seeing blame be misplaced gets under my skin, especially when it comes from such a disingenuous place.
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I mean yeah, that’s true. Why waste energy harassing developers of libre software for using AI? That’s not going to have any impact on big tech.
This is not about big tech, its about lutris apparently being maintained by an idiot with no regard for code quality, safety or community interests.
The point of drawing a line is to make a clear distinction between acceptable and unacceptable. If you just move the line when it’s convenient then it means nothing.
Sure, but if you end up policing only those in arm’s length you will have the opposite effect on the world of what you want.
Dude, you’re on Lemmy. Do you not realize how many people on here are saying “fuck it, let’s drop Google and Microslop and stick with FLOSS”? How many people on here are trying to convince others to switch too?
These people are already doing what they can to steer the entire tech space in the right direction. But it’s hard to influence the giants directly. To do that, you need good FLOSS alternatives, which doesn’t work if those alternatives start riddling themselves with slop
Nobody’s only policing those in arm’s length. I’m sure nobody mad at the Lutris dev over this are defending Google or Microsoft lol
People simply do not want AI. They don’t want to look at AI “art”, don’t want to listen to AI “music”, don’t want to read AI “books” and don’t want to use AI slopware.
This is both a matter of quality and, more importantly, principles.
And I think it’s safe to say that people in the open source community are more ideological than most. Finding out that a project is relying on exploitative corporate slop of an unknown origin is like the hippy going to the farmer’s market only to find that the guy selling “his local organic free-range cage-free” eggs is just buying factory shit from the supermarket.
I didn’t think anyone blames the Lutris guy for AI at large.
But people are passionate about things and they don’t want to support a project that they perceive is being thoughtlessly programmed, exploiting the labor of others, violating the letter or the spirit of the GPL, supporting a corrupt industry, etc.
Thank you. It’s so infuriating to come into threads like this to find “If you don’t like it, do it yourself” and shit like that. All it does is remove blame from the person making an ignorant decision, and place it on those rightfully upset because “Maybe the dev wouldn’t have been forced to use the environment destroying plagiarism machine if you have been more generous with your time.”
Yeah. But ultimately people will have to fork Lutris, or just use something else (like Faugus, Bottles, Steam, etc.), if they don’t like how things are being run.
Oh for sure, that’s one the benefits of open source stuff, you can do that in the first place. I just mean that seeing blame be misplaced gets under my skin, especially when it comes from such a disingenuous place.
Oh man I love having CVE 9 vulnerabilities in my system