"We knew we were asking for unusual things," says Newell, "and Oceanco embraced it with open arms."
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I still don’t get why people go to bat for valve, despite all the anti consumer shit they regularly do.

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They enabled my switch to Linux and out of Microsoft’s ecosystem with their investments and technology.

I’d reckon that there are few Valve loyalists, but rather a whole bunch of people grateful for their efforts.

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Why were you in the microsoft ecosystem to begin with?

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Because not everyone is young enough to have just gotten into computers at a time when there’s actual Linux compatibility with a significant percentage of software…

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Because every other gaming company is much worse.

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Doesn’t make this one good

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No, just less bad.

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Like what?

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Like offering steam sales that gets people to buy games and end up never play them

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Aren’t it the devs who offer sales? Either way you just not buy something you don’t need.

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A bit of sarcasm

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They are anti-developer (though dev opinions differ), but most people aren’t affected by the anti-consumer stuff. The only instances I know are censorship with niche visual novels and case gambling (and things like crashing CSGO economy sound like good things in that regard), unless there’s more I don’t know.

Contrast this to Nintendo just saying throwing lawsuits everywhere, among other things.

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They had to be forced into allowing refunds. They’re pretty shit with dealing with hacked accounts. Their forced price parity rules effectively raise prices across the industry.

Other companies being worse doesn’t make this one defacto good.

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