Counterpoint: Without music streaming or pirating I wouldn’t have discovered most of the artists I listen to. Artists of which I have bought concert tickets and merch (and in one case recurring support through youtube membership), and even just buying songs on bandcamp outright in spite of only listening via streaming.
Streaming is shit at generating revenue, but far far better at allowing artists to get noticed, which puts more power into the artists’ hands rather than labels. “Support what you like through donations and merch” seems like a much better model overall (and has been proven to work), which also allows people with less money to enjoy the music while those with money to spare support it (and usually artists would want nothing more than for everyone to be able to enjoy their work, but they also have to live off something).
Though this is an outside perspective and I’d be interested in what actual musicians have to say about it, particularly those that have been making a living/significant money off it both before and after the event of streaming (and not the huge ones, because they never had any exposure issues).
There’s also a chance that as a result of the discoverability, even if total money reaching the artists was unchanged, it’s split over more recipients, so it’s harder to actually make a living off it, but maybe easier to see at least some returns instead of it only being a money sink. Whether that’d be good or bad overall I can’t say.
Also since this thread is about games, I don’t think it really applies there since games are on average MUCH more expensive to make.
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And artists are getting paid peanuts in return.
Album sales have plummeted and Spotify are slowly replacing real artists with AI generated music to avoid needing to pay them.
Music streaming is an excellent example of what we don’t want to happen to another art form.
Counterpoint: Without music streaming or pirating I wouldn’t have discovered most of the artists I listen to. Artists of which I have bought concert tickets and merch (and in one case recurring support through youtube membership), and even just buying songs on bandcamp outright in spite of only listening via streaming.
Streaming is shit at generating revenue, but far far better at allowing artists to get noticed, which puts more power into the artists’ hands rather than labels. “Support what you like through donations and merch” seems like a much better model overall (and has been proven to work), which also allows people with less money to enjoy the music while those with money to spare support it (and usually artists would want nothing more than for everyone to be able to enjoy their work, but they also have to live off something).
Though this is an outside perspective and I’d be interested in what actual musicians have to say about it, particularly those that have been making a living/significant money off it both before and after the event of streaming (and not the huge ones, because they never had any exposure issues).
There’s also a chance that as a result of the discoverability, even if total money reaching the artists was unchanged, it’s split over more recipients, so it’s harder to actually make a living off it, but maybe easier to see at least some returns instead of it only being a money sink. Whether that’d be good or bad overall I can’t say.
Also since this thread is about games, I don’t think it really applies there since games are on average MUCH more expensive to make.
Of course its better for consumers, thats why they do it. Its worse for artists, that was the original point.
And my point was that it might not necessarily be worse for artists outside of the extremelg successful ones.