There’s been quite a bit of…unsettlement (totally a word) regarding the news that Discord has a new CEO and the company is going public (typically a sign of things going shittier than before).
I’d just like to re-post this which I shared some time ago, if you’ll indulge me in my rare post which isn’t a Steam Deck / Gaming News # post - a rarity for me.
In the end, this is not the be-all-and-end-all alternative, it won’t be for everyone. Matrix exists of course. But this is a nice place. And I thought considering recent events I’d recommend it regardless!
Following is just a copy of what I posted last time. It’s mostly Linux chat, gaming, handhelds (like the Steam Deck), movies and…general chats. Anyway, here’s the post:
So…this one is a bit left-of-field.
A friend of mine (Gardiner Bryant of YouTube - who reports on Linux and the Steam Deck) has started a Revolt server.
What is Revolt?
It’s kinda like a FOSS alternative to Discord. You’ll see the layout is almost a direct copy, and it’s far less polished…but then again you haven’t got the downsides of Discord’s constant upselling either:
…I can hear you ask? Well, so far its just a few developers and creators in there, but I thought of all spaces…maybe those very devs and creators whose work you use and watch…well it might be nice to join in there?
there’s a subtle difference, but if i’m following your logic, then weapons manufacturers have no moral/ethical responsibility for enabling war to happen? if you made a knife—harmless on its own, and then gave the knife to a murderer who then killed someone with it, are you not enabling?
I just want to make sure you notice it says “encrypted messaging” meaning matrix as a service, as opposed to “encrypted messages”, meaning selling your messages.
sure, it’s nuanced, but imho there’s a difference between actively helping and propping up vs providing free software. when you have active contracts with entities that discriminate, it becomes a different ethical stance than simply building FOSS.
yeah i can understand that viewpoint, and for all the matrix users i hope that remains true. maybe i’m just jaded, but i’ve been around long enough to know that just because a company isn’t a complete pile of shit now doesn’t mean they won’t be in the future—ESPECIALLY when you can see the company they keep (and defend).
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No thanks. One more centralized service to enshitify. Will stick with Matrix.
matrix is part of the police state. https://mastodon.matrix.org/@element/110340953550548309
Just in: Orange farmers are part of the police state because they sell oranges to the government, including policemen.
there’s a subtle difference, but if i’m following your logic, then weapons manufacturers have no moral/ethical responsibility for enabling war to happen? if you made a knife—harmless on its own, and then gave the knife to a murderer who then killed someone with it, are you not enabling?
Is Ford a part of the police state because they sell cars to them?
idk what their agreement is with them, but i’d venture to guess that they’re not not complicit.
I just want to make sure you notice it says “encrypted messaging” meaning matrix as a service, as opposed to “encrypted messages”, meaning selling your messages.
Uhh this is a reach. By this logic so is Signal. And RedHat. Hell, even Mastodon.
sure, it’s nuanced, but imho there’s a difference between actively helping and propping up vs providing free software. when you have active contracts with entities that discriminate, it becomes a different ethical stance than simply building FOSS.
Thats fair, but simly using FOSS software doesn’t support the cause of the developers/creators. I mean, look at Lemmy.
yeah i can understand that viewpoint, and for all the matrix users i hope that remains true. maybe i’m just jaded, but i’ve been around long enough to know that just because a company isn’t a complete pile of shit now doesn’t mean they won’t be in the future—ESPECIALLY when you can see the company they keep (and defend).