It might be slow but its happening. Linux just has 1 more barrier for me to switch: games with kernal anti cheats.
“Dual boot” - I’d have to switch so often its not funny, I value my time at least a little bit ok
“Don’t play those games” - I have friends, those friends want to play those games, I want to hang out with those friends because they’re fun people
I’m torn between wether the right response to that one is wanting Linux to support them, or refuse to play games that insist on requiring malware to play their game.
There are in fact many games with functioning anticheats that do not require kernel access. And there are also plenty of games with kernel level anticheat that is easily bypassed by, and thus are full of, cheaters.
Know why? Because the difference is “does the games moderation team give a fuck?”.
That’s it. That’s what makes the difference. Kernel level anticheat is a band-aid solution that’s cheaper than paying a decent support team what they’re worth. And if they’d rather pay for a half-assed software solution that’s also a gaping hole in user security, then you shouldn’t play the game in the first place. I don’t negotiate with terrorists, and neither should you.
Well, for the 1 game I play with a kernal anti cheat (valorant) I gotta say the game is surprisingly good and not having cheaters, certainly compared to my CSGO experience.
That has more to do with a moderation team behind the game that actually gives a shit than it does with having a kernel anticheat. Kernel anticheat keeps out the skids on MPGH, but a dedicated developer that actually gets paid for their efforts can bypass kernel anticheat with relative ease. This is why paid cheats for games with kernel anticheat (but also actually decent moderation) highly encourage you to be very subtle (using triggerbot instead of aimbot, for instance, or limiting your aim FOV/aim speed). The cheat in question may well be undetected by the kernel anticheat, but that doesn’t stop you from being banned by game admins that pay attention when you’re getting instant headshots and mass reported as a brand new account.
Again. Kernel anticheat is a half-assed software solution.
One particular point that’s stand out to me is Riot propaganda on how effective is the kernel anti cheat, that’s change the players perception on cheaters and even when they face a cheater they don’t believe is actually a cheater, something like: “Nah can’t be a cheater, is impossible to cheat in Valorant”
Its 100% just not playing kernal anti cheat games. Its just valorant left, and I just cannot drop it as its the main game I play with a really good friend of mine that I enjoy hanging out with.
I just hope windows 1 day also doesn’t allow kernal anti cheats, and that makes it so games can suddenly run on linux as well.
No clue honeslty, I’d assume those repacks are targeted towards windows mainly but honestly I think you’ll find your answer on the FMHY discord by asking there.
I have a steam deck but dunno why I would use it at home just to not use windows. A steam deck IS linux and doesn’t support kernal anti cheats and its a lot less powerful than my pc.
I do use it on the road, vacations, etc tho and its a great machine!
Jokes aside, few games (which I don’t remember) check if the gaming device is a Steam Deck, and accordingly allow the games to run by turning on user-space anticheat.
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It might be slow but its happening. Linux just has 1 more barrier for me to switch: games with kernal anti cheats.
“Dual boot” - I’d have to switch so often its not funny, I value my time at least a little bit ok “Don’t play those games” - I have friends, those friends want to play those games, I want to hang out with those friends because they’re fun people
I’m torn between wether the right response to that one is wanting Linux to support them, or refuse to play games that insist on requiring malware to play their game.
The latter. Always the latter. You know why?
There are in fact many games with functioning anticheats that do not require kernel access. And there are also plenty of games with kernel level anticheat that is easily bypassed by, and thus are full of, cheaters.
Know why? Because the difference is “does the games moderation team give a fuck?”.
That’s it. That’s what makes the difference. Kernel level anticheat is a band-aid solution that’s cheaper than paying a decent support team what they’re worth. And if they’d rather pay for a half-assed software solution that’s also a gaping hole in user security, then you shouldn’t play the game in the first place. I don’t negotiate with terrorists, and neither should you.
Well, for the 1 game I play with a kernal anti cheat (valorant) I gotta say the game is surprisingly good and not having cheaters, certainly compared to my CSGO experience.
That has more to do with a moderation team behind the game that actually gives a shit than it does with having a kernel anticheat. Kernel anticheat keeps out the skids on MPGH, but a dedicated developer that actually gets paid for their efforts can bypass kernel anticheat with relative ease. This is why paid cheats for games with kernel anticheat (but also actually decent moderation) highly encourage you to be very subtle (using triggerbot instead of aimbot, for instance, or limiting your aim FOV/aim speed). The cheat in question may well be undetected by the kernel anticheat, but that doesn’t stop you from being banned by game admins that pay attention when you’re getting instant headshots and mass reported as a brand new account.
Again. Kernel anticheat is a half-assed software solution.
To give context to the other comment, this video shows in detail many bypass for cheating in Valorant. Hacking into Kernel Anti-Cheats: How cheaters bypass Faceit, ESEA and Vanguard anti-cheats.
One particular point that’s stand out to me is Riot propaganda on how effective is the kernel anti cheat, that’s change the players perception on cheaters and even when they face a cheater they don’t believe is actually a cheater, something like: “Nah can’t be a cheater, is impossible to cheat in Valorant”
Its 100% just not playing kernal anti cheat games. Its just valorant left, and I just cannot drop it as its the main game I play with a really good friend of mine that I enjoy hanging out with.
I just hope windows 1 day also doesn’t allow kernal anti cheats, and that makes it so games can suddenly run on linux as well.
Can we play pirated games on Linux? Like the ones from repackers.
you can actually! either with lutris or by adding it as a non-steam game on steam
That’s cool. Thanks.
No clue honeslty, I’d assume those repacks are targeted towards windows mainly but honestly I think you’ll find your answer on the FMHY discord by asking there.
I’ll check it out.
I just got a Steam deck for that. It’s really worth it imo. Linux for my PC, steam deck for games.
I have a steam deck but dunno why I would use it at home just to not use windows. A steam deck IS linux and doesn’t support kernal anti cheats and its a lot less powerful than my pc.
I do use it on the road, vacations, etc tho and its a great machine!
How does steam deck handle kernel level anticheat any differently than arch?
That’s the neat part; it doesn’t.
Jokes aside, few games (which I don’t remember) check if the gaming device is a Steam Deck, and accordingly allow the games to run by turning on user-space anticheat.