A new login technique is becoming available in 2023: the passkey. The passkey promises to solve phishing and prevent password reuse. But lots of smart and security-oriented folks are confused about what exactly a passkey is. There’s a good reason for that. A passkey is in some sense one of two (or three) different things, depending on how it’s stored.
Except Google was only mentioned in terms of whether or not they support it.
You’re commenting on an article from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization dedicated to fighting for internet and digital freedoms, about an open standard that has only just begun being implemented widely.
Look, I hate corpos as much as anyone, but please let’s please tone down the alarmism.
Wow! I had no idea. I assumed the yubikey bioseries didn’t work with passkeys. But I read the documentation that you linked, and I just tested it out on the demo site. It works.
That’s amazing! Thanks
Can only store 25 keys but hey that’s still something.
I like that you are able to query what keys are stored, so if you are ever replacing or upgrading the key you can see where you should update to the new one. That is tough on the current yubikey, I’ve got a few generations of them and have to hold onto them just in case I happened to use them for 2FA somewhere and don’t remember it. 2FA is dynamically generated so there’s not really a way to change that, it’s just inconvenient.
I prefer the yubikey webauthn fido2 non passkey approach. It’s not limited to 25 slots. And if your key gets compromised, or you’re forced to unlock it, there isn’t a list of sites that it works on.
With passkeys, if somebody compromises you, physically, they can see everything you can log into. That makes me feel icky
Right, so they coerce you to unlock the yubi key (threats, torture, finger removal, etc) and now they see all your passkeys and what they belong to. It’s a menu of your activity.
There are definitely pluses and minuses. It will lock you out after 8 incorrect pins so if it came down to it, you could probably force it to lock pretty quickly.
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something from a corporation that cannot be trusted?
Except passkeys are an Open Authentication standard from the FIDO alliance. Soooooo, not from a corporation.
https://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/
You can use passkeys in KeePassXC, if I understand correctly.
They are the equivalent of using a hardware key like YubiKey or SoloKey, except the passkey is stored on your phone/PC instead of a USB thumbstick.
still no reason to trust google with this.
they have hijacked and dominated open source software quite a bit in the past.
Except Google was only mentioned in terms of whether or not they support it.
You’re commenting on an article from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, an organization dedicated to fighting for internet and digital freedoms, about an open standard that has only just begun being implemented widely.
Look, I hate corpos as much as anyone, but please let’s please tone down the alarmism.
I’d like to thank you for providing context to reactivism based solely on an emotional reaction without doing any research first.
I am guilty of that as well, but you put effort in, explained things and that takes time. Thanks.
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They are fine, just ssh public private keypairs but for “the web”… worse than fido2… so not really sure why they are being pushed so much above fido2
They are FIDO2. This is the passwordless stuff yubico has been talking about and working on for ages, plus a marketing name.
https://www.yubico.com/blog/a-yubico-faq-about-passkeys/
Wow! I had no idea. I assumed the yubikey bioseries didn’t work with passkeys. But I read the documentation that you linked, and I just tested it out on the demo site. It works.
That’s amazing! Thanks
Can only store 25 keys but hey that’s still something.
I like that you are able to query what keys are stored, so if you are ever replacing or upgrading the key you can see where you should update to the new one. That is tough on the current yubikey, I’ve got a few generations of them and have to hold onto them just in case I happened to use them for 2FA somewhere and don’t remember it. 2FA is dynamically generated so there’s not really a way to change that, it’s just inconvenient.
I prefer the yubikey webauthn fido2 non passkey approach. It’s not limited to 25 slots. And if your key gets compromised, or you’re forced to unlock it, there isn’t a list of sites that it works on.
With passkeys, if somebody compromises you, physically, they can see everything you can log into. That makes me feel icky
Can they though? I own a few yubikeys with passkeys stored inside and i cannot query stored logins without entering a pin.
Right, so they coerce you to unlock the yubi key (threats, torture, finger removal, etc) and now they see all your passkeys and what they belong to. It’s a menu of your activity.
There are definitely pluses and minuses. It will lock you out after 8 incorrect pins so if it came down to it, you could probably force it to lock pretty quickly.