And since when do I care about the law? Also there are laws about repair in my country.

It would be good to point out that a user of a rooted phone isn’t as likely to go running random terminal commands as root as you would in Linux. Most of the time users of rooted phones are running apps that use root privileges without running commands themselves. Also if you don’t know what your doing then don’t run random terminal commands.

As in a company cannot disallow you from doing anything you want with you’re device, because you own it! I guess they can try and make it more difficult by the way they design the product, but that’s actually illegal in some countries and states. For example my country has right to repair legislation for certain types of applicances.

Right to repair isn’t a law yet in most places. You seem have have missed that whole debacle.

Edit: my country actually has right to repair laws: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57665593

It means you can use the property in any way that isn’t violent. Completely the wrong meaning of peace you are using. They have go say peacefully so that hitting someone with a hammer isn’t covered by property rights.

Yeah nah. There are more reasons why Apple TrackPads are great not just glass.

Have a look at the Sensel haptic touchpad used in the X1 Titanium Yoga. It’s a touchpad that’s actually better than Apple’s. It’s a shame it only got used in like 2 devices so far.

You talking about “crushing” the Apple laptops is missing the point. Performance isn’t the main reason people buy them, it’s things like the TrackPad, software, battery life, and overall usability.

He never said the government guarantees a peaceful state of mine. Stop misinterpreting other people’s arguments just because you can’t make a valid one yourself.

Does someone forbid you from repairing it?

They sign and lock hardware to prevent you from swapping parts. How do you not see this as bad and anti-consumer? Like they are actively preventing you from repairing something for no reason.

But then why would they make everything locked to the system by hardware id. It just seems that they used the speed argument to justify anti consumer pactices.

Yeah they locked it because they are anti-consumer. Soldered RAM has actual benefits, that’s why they aren’t the only company doing it. Two very different issues. It’s like them soldering in SSDs is anti-consumer because there is little benefit there and only a few companies are copying them.

Speed is not “just an excuse” either. This design is dependant on having RAM that fast, it’s faster than any other laptop that I have seen for a good reason. It also improves battery and reduces size.

Yeah, a different person after I made my comment speaking from anecdotal experience.

Yeah my bad

No repair mention anywhere so idk what youre on about, also by your logic you dont own your 1950 fridge anymore because theres no one left to repair it, your argument is so stupid

He’s talking about the right to repair you’re own stuff or have someone look at it. Not the right to a competent repairman. Those are two different things. I am not sure if you’re arguing in bad faith or if this is just a mistake to be honest.

The RAM is built onto the substrate. Every contact you add increases signal degredation. Plus actually trying to fit eight sockets on a SoC package would be a complete nightmare.

Dividing RAM like that into two pools would violate the permise of the whole unified memory system. You’re really asking for the wrong thing here. Why not convinve them to do something like a modular SSD that’s far more achievable? Also memory that doesn’t come at sky high prices with an actual sensible mimimum (8GB on MacBooks in 2023, really?).

For other laptops there is actually a solution to this problem called a CAMM. It would even work for the M2 Macbooks possibly (not the M2 Pro or Max) if apple are willing to sacrifice size or battery life of the laptop. The reason this wouldn’t work for the M2 Pro and Max is you would need two or four of these things. It would be diffcult enough to fit just one in a Macbook that have tiny, tiny logic boards to begin with.

Yeah nah. Signing components isn’t gonna stop people stealing phones just like iCloud dosen’t now. Nobody apart from you actually wants this feature.

They replied and explained it. Try again mate.

Amen to this. I have to deal with it on my Zephyrus M16 which has shit battery life to begin with.

Thanks a bunch. The level of ignorance here to Apple’s design choices is palpable. Some of the stuff they do is very anti-consumer. Soldered RAM isn’t one of them - at least on Apple Silicon. Having modular GPU RAM hasn’t been a thing for over a decade for good reasons.

Well fucking said dude. You know dGPUs used go have upgradable RAM? They removed it because it dosen’t work for that application. Apples iGPUs struggle to compete even being soldered partly because the competition is using GDDR and they aren’t. Not soldering would make them even further behind.

Erm yeah it’s more than 50% faster in bandwidth for M2 Max, because it has more memory channels than two SODIMMs would allow for. It’s specifically at least twice as fast. People upvoting this are showing their ignorance here about Apple hardware.

The storage isn’t particularly fast so that part I believe.

Go look at the RAM speed of the M2 Pro and M2 Max. They are essentially quad and eight channels respectively to get the speed they achieve. Good look doing that with SODIMM modules.

Actually good RAM speed is absolutely essential for GPU performance. Saying how more RAM speed isn’t important for a use case like the Apple Silicon Macs is ignorant AF.

Erm yeah. Have you never seen an M1 chip? It’s on the same substrate.

Windows privacy is shocking. Windows security used to be shocking so it improving is just returning to average. I don’t see any reason to think Apple devices security is getting worse. If anything it’s actually getting better.

In the very long term you are right. The thing is we aren’t there yet. Lots of companies are making things unrepairable for no reason right now. This is at a time when we need to produce less stuff to help the environment.

Upgradable RAM isn’t as fast as non-upgradable RAM and that this is especially true for the way Apple Silicon is designed. So no we shouldn’t be mandating something that reduces computer performance for the sake of an upgrade most people would never care to perform.

We should however force them to produce laptops with a certain minimum RAM and to reduce their ridiculous upgrade pricing.

Edit: also I don’t own a single Apple product. I aren’t a fan boy at all and I know they do a whole bunch of anti-consumer bs. I also know that modular RAM for Apple Silicon would be a terrible idea for that specific design. Modular SSDs on the other hand would be very doable.