Music composer, game designer and cybermancer.

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Tennis again?

Joke aside, pure competitive games are indeed just pure competitive games with no context at all. But competition in itself is ideological and political (the need to make the opponent lose) so Pong is too.

It’s a point of view on multiplayer gaming. In Pong there is always a loser and a winner, never two winners, never two losers (can we even make a draw in original Pong? I don’t know).

Pong is also a game that opposed human versus computer, it can be view as pure skill exercise to be a ‘better’ human or it can be literally a fight against the machine like playing chess against a computer. Both makes me want to ask what is the point to do this ? I think answers at this questions are political indeed.


Super Mario make a twist on the trope of the knight saving the princess. The knight is just a plumber and it is said to him that the ‘princess is an another castle’. But at the end the right order of the world is restaured when Mario finally frees the princess from the evil Bowser.

So from a political standpoint Super Mario is a product believing strongly in individualism and in the self made man ideology. The twist shows only that even a plumber can save the princess if he works enough = liberal capitalism making us believed that we’ll be all rock stars and billionaires when we’re definitively not (and yes I’m quoting fight club here). All this is the consequence of the game focussing more on gameplay than it’s narration, therefore it leans towards what was the common thinking of the time.

Polygamy (relationship between Peach, Mario and Luigi, if that’s what you are referring to) is much to me a side effect of the 2 players gameplay possibility, but it is still indeed pretty interesting in itself yeah.

You probably meant it as a joke, but too bad you get a real answer :)


Indeed, I still get someone giving me names of nonpolitical games.



  • Doom promotes strong virilism = political.
  • Tetris = promote the control of chaos (view as destructive, because too much and you lose) through psycho-rigid order.
  • Need For Speed = yeah nothing political about promoting cars, except the incitation to get one.
  • Wii Tennis = tries to make you forget tennis is for rich people only, by making it cute = political.

My point is everything is political, you don’t have to see political standpoint in things, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t there.


The Council, The Wreck, Haven, Orwell, Life Is Strange, Journey of course, The Stanley Parable, The Beginner’s Guide, Everything by Christine Love, Everything by Jonathan Blow, Inside and Limbo, Get Even, Betrayal, Kentucky Route Zero, Never Alone, Tell Me Why, A Plague Tale (both), Deathtrap Dungeon (interactive video adventure), Kholat, Asemblance, Firewatch, Her Story, The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter.

I include a bit of everything…


I would like to find a game free of political message, can someone please show me one?

I’m really curious about what this mythical beast might look like…


I think someone at ubi played Astrobot and thought “wait a minute”…


Solium Infernum : strategy game, with a lot of diplomacy mechanisms ( like you can’t attack directly an enemy but you can ask them to pay you tribute, if they refuse you can attack on response).


There is two Arkane studios.

Arkane Austin made Prey and Redfall. Arkane Lyon made Dishonnored 1&2 and Deathloop.





The goal is to limit one player carrying the others to much.



I have no problem with you believing on the market auto-balancing itself at the sole benefit of the users. But it is just you believing something, and you are lucky you can afford to live in a way that enforce that belief.

In my country there was an unregulated market for everything (in the 19th), and workers (among them children) were getting very low paiement with the excuse that they weren’t working enough. So I don’t believe in the auto regulated market in the benefits of users.

Let’s take the tobacco industry (based on slavery and addiction) do you think it is an industry that thrives on the good health of people ? No, tobacco needs regulation to start lowering the number of people killing themself with cigs.

You can make up examples (and I can do myself a all bunch of things with ‘ifs’) but I prefer some facts and some studies as arguments.


This isn’t working, it never have, consumers can’t ‘vote with their money’ in face of constant capitalism and heavy marketing.

This is why regulations are needed.


Piracy isn’t a libre licence.

Libre licence means sharing the source code and the game assets.

Here piracy means free to play.

And you’re right free software doesn’t mean the author doesn’t get paid. But that’s not the point here.

Lastly, in some legislations (author’s right), a statement like this one don’t work because the author himself cannot violate his own rights. Which mean that people can be sue for pirating a work even if the author stated that people can pirate it. To me, it’s endangering the audience.

On the bright side, it’s still nice to have an author acknowledging piracy doesn’t steal sells and that culture is meant to be shared.





You’re welcome. You could also try Systemshock 1&2 it’s the same era as Deus Ex.


Hum it isn’t I’ll check it out thx.

Edit : fixed, thank you didn’t pay attention and tick the box by mistake.


It is and I never have stability issues on PC. Bugs yes and the 3 years update have getting rid of the most annoying ones.


You could try Cyberpunk 2077, Dishonored 1&2, Prey before giving any money to Ubisoft. + Half-Life 2, BioShock trilogy, Fear if you want more action.

If you aren’t against rpgs go play Dragon Age:Origins, Mass Effect trilogy or Baldur’s Gate 3. Or Alpha Protocol ?

If oldies doesn’t scare you : Vampire Bloodlines, Deus Ex, Half-Life, Baldur’s Gate 1&2, Planescape Torment, Thief 1&2, and some point’n click games also…