But that’s not what you are doing. You don’t need this mod to make the choice that allows you to play the way you want.
I mean, I have no problem with modding anything anyway (in fact I believe it was wrong for Nexus to remove the mod, the only thing it did is making certain kind of obstinate people go into a silly crusade to defend a silly mod). But this mod is objectively removing options, not adding them.
This has nothing to do with biology, it’s 100% English grammar. Biology books are not the ones explaining what’s a “pronoun”. In fact, many languages don’t even have pronouns, and yet their biology books can perfectly be translated.
English grammar is constantly evolving. In fact, it would make it a lot more realistic if there were more strange expressions and mannerisms, even outside of pronouns. Battlestar Galactica did add some funny nonsensical expressions like “frak”, “rook”, “frimp”, “pogees” and popular phrases like “so say we all” that added a layer of depth to their futuristic culture, making it a lot more believable.
I don’t think this mod really helps with “realism”. It would in fact be unrealistic to expect no linguistic changes at all in 300 years. The only reason why I think some people are mad is because they think it’s pandering to a political agenda so they don’t even want to see an option be given at all… despite it actually being a totally optional and even totally believable aspect of a future hypothetical culture. Whether you agree with the direction that this hypothetical futuristic culture developed towards or not.
It has to do with both. In consensus English grammar, your pronoun is assigned to your per your sex. Billions speak English this way and they will not change because a handful of sexual degenerates tell them to. This is not up for debate.
That might be a particular consensus in English grammar, but it’s still 100% dependent on what your linguistics are. If, at some point in time, the consensus in English grammar were to assign different pronouns based on age, or what kind of job that person has… then that would still be a linguistic trait, even if you were linking it to a perceived physiological appearance / job position, they’d be doing it because the community in that language wants to do it, not because biology/economics dictates it.
So, like every consensus, the only thing making it change is for people in that Universe to agree with the change. Something that happens frequently, and has happened already several times across history.
300 years ago people used the pronoun “thou” for the second person in singular, and “you” was only used as a plural. And a lot of people pushed back against change too, but change did stick with the community, to the point that today everybody uses “you” and “thou” dissappeared.
It wouldn’t be unrealistic to assume that the same could happen, for example, with “they”, another 300 years in the future.
I’m simply removing objectively incorrect content. There is no such thing as personal pronouns, and with a simple mod, they are easily removed like any bug in any program. Problem?
I don’t get how this lets you play a game the way you want? It takes out an option in a drop down that you wouldn’t use in the first place? It’s like me removing the colour blind option in a game, when I’m not colour blind. Just don’t use it if you don’t need it.
The option itself doesn’t exist in reality. Biology and English grammar are crystal clear on this. The presence of the option in the game is itself wrong. The mod corrects this mistake.
Feel free to study any actually published biology or English textbook. You won’t find this nonsense anywhere in them. You’re just ignorant. You need to go back to school.
I just cannot figure out how downloading and installing a mod is somehow less engagement with this clearly dangerous pronoun selection compared to, I assume, not moving the menu from the default, creating your character, and getting on with the game?
Does the pronoun selector come back to haunt you during later exploration? Is it the final boss?
As an aside, I’m genuinely a bit worried about what terrible hellscape a site named “basedmods” which is only available on some kind of onion-or-web3 routing must be. (Jokingly, as I clearly can’t resist knowing about it, does anyone have a Firefox add-on that will remove it from the websites I browse?)
It’s resistance against cultural imperialism. You wouldn’t get it because you clearly have no principles. You are happy to bend the knee against any and all opreasion.
The mod doesn’t work, though. I can call my male character “Silvia” (a female name). The game gives you the option to choose names that do not match what is culturally traditional.
They should give you less options. Don’t allow choosing names either.
In fact, remove character customization entirely, then there won’t be any “imperialism”, right?
I’d go further: make the game more lineal. Remove meaningful choices for the story. Do not allow the player to play in a way that might end up fitting any particular imperialistic agenda. People shouldn’t have freedom to choose to follow any ideal.
Never said you did. But you’re claiming oppression over the completely optional feature of… checks notes choosing a different combination of letters. Thats the sort of pathetic mental gymnastics I expect from Peterson and his ilk. Maybe youre more of a Joe Rogan or Matt Walsh kind of guy, but its not too much of a stretch to suggest one of them is informing your dumb ass opinions.
The oppression is forcing people to accept this completely nonsensical concept as part of a mandated world view. I resist and I use my freedom of choice to mod the game so that it is no longer nonsensical.
By principles I am really saying sanity. Biology is immutable. English grammar is a matter of established consensus. Personal pronouns are objectively wrong per both standards.
during character creation you select skill points, traits, a name, body type, gender etc. And a pronoun. Its literally just a menu choice in character creation.
The only impact to the game is being referred to by your chosen pronoun.
Its the most ridiculous thing to be seething over like OP is here
Pronouns cannot be chosen. They are determined by your sex per the rules of English grammar. It’s the most ridiculous thing to be seething over objective correctness like you here.
I still don’t see the big deal about the pronoun mods. You have the power to use it or not. Also banning the mods only helped it. Streisand effect, everyone.
In all seriousness, why? You can just leave the default value and be referred to as your preferred pronouns. You can literally do nothing and get exactly what you want. What’s the point in going out of your way to install a mod to effectively do nothing?
You literally could not handle a mod that removes incorrect biology and English grammar from a game. Cry more. Your ideology is objectively false and we will never bend the knee to it.
I’ll interact with the mentally ill if I have to, but I won’t participate in their mental illness as part of the interaction. This is irrelevant in the context of this game, because it’s single player.
Yeah but that’s the thing, you didn’t have to. Literally all you had to do was make your character, without hitting the button to change pronouns. You’re making yourself mad about extra steps you didn’t have to take. You could have just lived your life without getting angry about something you didn’t need to interact with.
I don’t have to deal with mental illness at all by taking it right out of the game using the mod. It takes all of two minutes. It’s easy peasy. It solves the problem definitively and forever.
The real question here is, why are you so insistent that the mental illness remain in the game? Why are you so butthurt over people resisting against mandated mental illness? Maybe you should take these issues up with your therapist.
Y’all know there is no “removing” the pronouns for this mod right? All these do is remove he and she and default to they.
So I guess what I’m saying is I’m glad you’re working so hard to remove the antiquated gender binary from your own personal fantasy future game. What a fantastic show of support for the trans and enby community! 😂
It removes “pronoun choice”, which isn’t a thing that exists in the real world, anyway. You can’t choose your pronoun. Your biology and the rules of English grammar dictate it.
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This is hilarious to see. It’s like watching human brain rot IRT.
Onion should write an article about lazy losers who mod games to gain edgelord status at some gamecon.
We are winning against attempts to shut down our resistance. #resist
You mean hate. You’re spreading hate.
You’re the one in my post’s comment thread hating on me.
WTF is wrong with you people? All this effort just to be a dick.
Maybe it’s some sort of mental gymnastics that “If you can’t get some dick, you must become a dick”.
Playing a single-player game the way I want is being a dick how exactly.
But that’s not what you are doing. You don’t need this mod to make the choice that allows you to play the way you want.
I mean, I have no problem with modding anything anyway (in fact I believe it was wrong for Nexus to remove the mod, the only thing it did is making certain kind of obstinate people go into a silly crusade to defend a silly mod). But this mod is objectively removing options, not adding them.
There is no such thing as a choice of personal pronouns. The concept doesn’t exist in biology and English grammar. The so-called feature is a bug.
This has nothing to do with biology, it’s 100% English grammar. Biology books are not the ones explaining what’s a “pronoun”. In fact, many languages don’t even have pronouns, and yet their biology books can perfectly be translated.
English grammar is constantly evolving. In fact, it would make it a lot more realistic if there were more strange expressions and mannerisms, even outside of pronouns. Battlestar Galactica did add some funny nonsensical expressions like “frak”, “rook”, “frimp”, “pogees” and popular phrases like “so say we all” that added a layer of depth to their futuristic culture, making it a lot more believable.
I don’t think this mod really helps with “realism”. It would in fact be unrealistic to expect no linguistic changes at all in 300 years. The only reason why I think some people are mad is because they think it’s pandering to a political agenda so they don’t even want to see an option be given at all… despite it actually being a totally optional and even totally believable aspect of a future hypothetical culture. Whether you agree with the direction that this hypothetical futuristic culture developed towards or not.
It has to do with both. In consensus English grammar, your pronoun is assigned to your per your sex. Billions speak English this way and they will not change because a handful of sexual degenerates tell them to. This is not up for debate.
That might be a particular consensus in English grammar, but it’s still 100% dependent on what your linguistics are. If, at some point in time, the consensus in English grammar were to assign different pronouns based on age, or what kind of job that person has… then that would still be a linguistic trait, even if you were linking it to a perceived physiological appearance / job position, they’d be doing it because the community in that language wants to do it, not because biology/economics dictates it.
So, like every consensus, the only thing making it change is for people in that Universe to agree with the change. Something that happens frequently, and has happened already several times across history.
300 years ago people used the pronoun “thou” for the second person in singular, and “you” was only used as a plural. And a lot of people pushed back against change too, but change did stick with the community, to the point that today everybody uses “you” and “thou” dissappeared.
It wouldn’t be unrealistic to assume that the same could happen, for example, with “they”, another 300 years in the future.
That’s a lot of words to admit that you’re wrong. Bye, loser.
You’re so triggered by pronouns that you actively seek out a mod to remove them. You can fuck right off you bigot.
I’m simply removing objectively incorrect content. There is no such thing as personal pronouns, and with a simple mod, they are easily removed like any bug in any program. Problem?
So in a game with faster than light travel you want realism from some optional character creation choices?
HAHAHAHAHAHA LOSER
FTL is theoretically possible through wormholes.
Git gud, scrub.
So FTL being theoretical is more believable to you than someone choosing their own identity.
Get fucked bigot.
Personal pronouns are objectively incorrect per the laws of biology and the rules of English grammar. This is not a matter of opinion.
> claims to be removing ‘objecticely incorrect’ content
> does nothing but post incorrect content
My fucking sides, you bigots are hilarious(ly wrong about everything).
I don’t get how this lets you play a game the way you want? It takes out an option in a drop down that you wouldn’t use in the first place? It’s like me removing the colour blind option in a game, when I’m not colour blind. Just don’t use it if you don’t need it.
The option itself doesn’t exist in reality. Biology and English grammar are crystal clear on this. The presence of the option in the game is itself wrong. The mod corrects this mistake.
Not that I agree with your point in the first place, but I hope you’re also modding out FTL travel then.
That’s theoretically possible through wormholes. We just don’t know the exact mechanism yet.
Feel free to study any actually published biology or English textbook. You won’t find this nonsense anywhere in them. You’re just ignorant. You need to go back to school.
I just cannot figure out how downloading and installing a mod is somehow less engagement with this clearly dangerous pronoun selection compared to, I assume, not moving the menu from the default, creating your character, and getting on with the game?
Does the pronoun selector come back to haunt you during later exploration? Is it the final boss?
As an aside, I’m genuinely a bit worried about what terrible hellscape a site named “basedmods” which is only available on some kind of onion-or-web3 routing must be. (Jokingly, as I clearly can’t resist knowing about it, does anyone have a Firefox add-on that will remove it from the websites I browse?)
It’s resistance against cultural imperialism. You wouldn’t get it because you clearly have no principles. You are happy to bend the knee against any and all opreasion.
Apparently customization oppresses.
This mod customizes the game to remove the cultural imperialism from it. Problem?
The mod doesn’t work, though. I can call my male character “Silvia” (a female name). The game gives you the option to choose names that do not match what is culturally traditional.
They should give you less options. Don’t allow choosing names either.
In fact, remove character customization entirely, then there won’t be any “imperialism”, right?
I’d go further: make the game more lineal. Remove meaningful choices for the story. Do not allow the player to play in a way that might end up fitting any particular imperialistic agenda. People shouldn’t have freedom to choose to follow any ideal.
Good luck with your mod.
Oh so you like Jordan Peterson, got it.
I never mentioned him once anywhere in this thread. You’re hallucinating.
Never said you did. But you’re claiming oppression over the completely optional feature of… checks notes choosing a different combination of letters. Thats the sort of pathetic mental gymnastics I expect from Peterson and his ilk. Maybe youre more of a Joe Rogan or Matt Walsh kind of guy, but its not too much of a stretch to suggest one of them is informing your dumb ass opinions.
The oppression is forcing people to accept this completely nonsensical concept as part of a mandated world view. I resist and I use my freedom of choice to mod the game so that it is no longer nonsensical.
I do not consent. No means no. Capisce?
By “principals” your really are saying bigotry. Because you are a bigot.
By principles I am really saying sanity. Biology is immutable. English grammar is a matter of established consensus. Personal pronouns are objectively wrong per both standards.
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If you’re sincerely asking,
during character creation you select skill points, traits, a name, body type, gender etc. And a pronoun. Its literally just a menu choice in character creation.
The only impact to the game is being referred to by your chosen pronoun.
Its the most ridiculous thing to be seething over like OP is here
Pronouns cannot be chosen. They are determined by your sex per the rules of English grammar. It’s the most ridiculous thing to be seething over objective correctness like you here.
So that is literally the last time, assuming no bugs, you would encounter it?
… Yeah, that is pretty much what I figured. 😑
I still don’t see the big deal about the pronoun mods. You have the power to use it or not. Also banning the mods only helped it. Streisand effect, everyone.
So this is like an adblocker for irrelevant ingame stuff? Or is it a hack that disadvantages other players?
Starfield is a single player game. Where are no other players.
🙏
The game is single player. You couldn’t disadvantage other players even if you wanted to.
I hate how the very few fighting back this bullshit get’s handled. Def saved if I ever play this game
In all seriousness, why? You can just leave the default value and be referred to as your preferred pronouns. You can literally do nothing and get exactly what you want. What’s the point in going out of your way to install a mod to effectively do nothing?
There is no such thing as a preferred pronoun. It is nonsense. Out it goes.
aww the little snowflake seething over a pronoun. pathetic.
You’re the one seething in a thread that you could have just ignored but personally and explicitly chose to come into just to seethe.
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You literally could not handle a mod that removes incorrect biology and English grammar from a game. Cry more. Your ideology is objectively false and we will never bend the knee to it.
Where, by “bend the knee” you mean “never have to interact with it in any way,” but nah, you go off, fam. Row row fight the powah!
I’ll interact with the mentally ill if I have to, but I won’t participate in their mental illness as part of the interaction. This is irrelevant in the context of this game, because it’s single player.
Yeah but that’s the thing, you didn’t have to. Literally all you had to do was make your character, without hitting the button to change pronouns. You’re making yourself mad about extra steps you didn’t have to take. You could have just lived your life without getting angry about something you didn’t need to interact with.
It hurt itself in its confusion!
I don’t have to deal with mental illness at all by taking it right out of the game using the mod. It takes all of two minutes. It’s easy peasy. It solves the problem definitively and forever.
The real question here is, why are you so insistent that the mental illness remain in the game? Why are you so butthurt over people resisting against mandated mental illness? Maybe you should take these issues up with your therapist.
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Can you say the same thing about people who are downvoting this post? All you need to do is replace “pronoun” with “mod”.
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Okay.
Y’all know there is no “removing” the pronouns for this mod right? All these do is remove he and she and default to they.
So I guess what I’m saying is I’m glad you’re working so hard to remove the antiquated gender binary from your own personal fantasy future game. What a fantastic show of support for the trans and enby community! 😂
It removes “pronoun choice”, which isn’t a thing that exists in the real world, anyway. You can’t choose your pronoun. Your biology and the rules of English grammar dictate it.
Yikes