A report from Taiwan says Google's Tensor G5 has successfully taped out. The 3 nm chip is slated to use Google's fully in-house design and manufactured by TSMC.
Well, by the time the Pixel 10 comes out, it’ll be 2 generations after the iPhone that used a SoC from TSMC’s 3nm node (the A17, used in iPhone 15 Pro, launched September 2023). I’d imagine it’ll have caught up some, but will still behind while Apple is presumably launching something from TSMC’s 2nm or A14 node at the same time.
It’s definitely a moving target and I can see a world where it stays in the same relative position. Moving to a better node is a necessary but not sufficient condition to be competitive.
I will add that nodes don’t stay still, either. A 2025 run on a node may have a bunch of improvements over a 2023 run on that same node.
And Google’s jump from Samsung to TSMC itself might be a bigger jump than a typical year over year improvement. Although it could also mean growing pains there, too.
Legacy nodes (known in the industry as “mature” nodes) remain in use after they’re no longer cutting edge. Each run teaches lessons learned for improving yield or performance, so there’s still room for improvement after mass production starts happening.
This is a common, well known, well documented problem. Before Lemmy or was a regular subject on Reddit. Pretty sure every Pixel has had this problem (though I’m not 100% on that)
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The Pixel 9 already feels outdated and obsolete and it’s not even released yet
shrugs at 6a that is arguably already more performance than I need in a phone
Exactly, phones have become appliances. I have a 6p and I can’t imagine anything else I need…
Based on? Lmao
I don’t understand your question
Very exciting. I wonder if this means we’ll get some competitive benchmarks instead of the generation or two behind we have been seeing.
Well, by the time the Pixel 10 comes out, it’ll be 2 generations after the iPhone that used a SoC from TSMC’s 3nm node (the A17, used in iPhone 15 Pro, launched September 2023). I’d imagine it’ll have caught up some, but will still behind while Apple is presumably launching something from TSMC’s 2nm or A14 node at the same time.
It’s definitely a moving target and I can see a world where it stays in the same relative position. Moving to a better node is a necessary but not sufficient condition to be competitive.
I will add that nodes don’t stay still, either. A 2025 run on a node may have a bunch of improvements over a 2023 run on that same node.
And Google’s jump from Samsung to TSMC itself might be a bigger jump than a typical year over year improvement. Although it could also mean growing pains there, too.
Wow, I didn’t know that the quality of a process changes with time.
Legacy nodes (known in the industry as “mature” nodes) remain in use after they’re no longer cutting edge. Each run teaches lessons learned for improving yield or performance, so there’s still room for improvement after mass production starts happening.
I hope they fix the overheating and poor battery performance on Pixels. I had Pixel 6 and now Pixel 8 and both have the same problem
Sounds like you have some weird apps installed, never had this problem on my 6.
This is a common, well known, well documented problem. Before Lemmy or was a regular subject on Reddit. Pretty sure every Pixel has had this problem (though I’m not 100% on that)
You’re right
No, I use GrapheneOS and all my apps are very basic and open source, I dont have Google Play services too and the battery life is poor.