You are right that Fallout 4 was better, but not by much imo. I just remember the huge disappointment I felt with Skyrim and the Fallout games, being a huge fan of Fallout 1/2, and shooters in general. Everything just felt slow and wonky.
It just never felt like a priority, which is totally fine and lots of people praise their products like they’re the pinnacle of video games, the engine just ruins it for me.
I’m actually surprised to not be downvoted to hell. If you air this opinion in front of casual gamers, like in /r/gaming, they go full Bethesda-fanboy-mode.
I think the effort towards changing that starting with Fallout 4 shows, it seems like it’s now a priority for them. Their engine has always been their greatest asset in terms of gameplay possibility, world object physics, immersion through radiant AI scheduling, an open and very moddable design, and it’s obvious specialization towards open world format (less of a big deal for an engine nowadays).
It’s also been one of their greatest weaknesses, with stiff and awkward animation and movement/combat on both NPCs and the player, the inability for crouching to allow you to pass under certain objects, poor pathfinding and scripting on NPCs in combat and for your followers who constantly get lost or hung up on geometry, the radiant AI which through complication of scripting can cause quest NPCs to be in the wrong locations or be missing the correct dialogue.
Ever since the creation engine rebrand I partially lamented that they didn’t scrap the engine, but over time I’ve come to accept that it’s not just Bethesda that makes Bethesda games, it’s the gamebryo engine. To remake an engine with their unique systems, mechanics, moddable format, and familiar console commands would be an enormous undertaking and I understand why theyve chosen to dig in and modify it further instead and their acceptance of those pros and cons.
I think any true lover of Bethesda games has to understand what they’re really good at, and what they’re really bad at, and you have to want them to get better, or else that’s not love at all.
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You are right that Fallout 4 was better, but not by much imo. I just remember the huge disappointment I felt with Skyrim and the Fallout games, being a huge fan of Fallout 1/2, and shooters in general. Everything just felt slow and wonky.
It just never felt like a priority, which is totally fine and lots of people praise their products like they’re the pinnacle of video games, the engine just ruins it for me.
I’m actually surprised to not be downvoted to hell. If you air this opinion in front of casual gamers, like in /r/gaming, they go full Bethesda-fanboy-mode.
I think the effort towards changing that starting with Fallout 4 shows, it seems like it’s now a priority for them. Their engine has always been their greatest asset in terms of gameplay possibility, world object physics, immersion through radiant AI scheduling, an open and very moddable design, and it’s obvious specialization towards open world format (less of a big deal for an engine nowadays).
It’s also been one of their greatest weaknesses, with stiff and awkward animation and movement/combat on both NPCs and the player, the inability for crouching to allow you to pass under certain objects, poor pathfinding and scripting on NPCs in combat and for your followers who constantly get lost or hung up on geometry, the radiant AI which through complication of scripting can cause quest NPCs to be in the wrong locations or be missing the correct dialogue.
Ever since the creation engine rebrand I partially lamented that they didn’t scrap the engine, but over time I’ve come to accept that it’s not just Bethesda that makes Bethesda games, it’s the gamebryo engine. To remake an engine with their unique systems, mechanics, moddable format, and familiar console commands would be an enormous undertaking and I understand why theyve chosen to dig in and modify it further instead and their acceptance of those pros and cons.
I think any true lover of Bethesda games has to understand what they’re really good at, and what they’re really bad at, and you have to want them to get better, or else that’s not love at all.