Worth noting that the Plutonium subscription of Fluxer is irrelevant if you self host - you will have all features available and unlocked for free.
For me this sounds like a perfect compromise. “Discord Nitro” style monetisation is effective and compelling and like it or not a true competitor needs a revenue stream from somewhere and I have serious doubts about the viability of donation-only monetisation at this scale.
In my eyes, the only sensible way of building such a platform at scale is having it be federated. Otherwise you can host a server - and if you’re unlucky, might need accounts on five servers to access all the groups you want.
If their federation implementation comes relatively prompt and is workable, that’s great. If not, it feels like a way to bootstrap a centralised alternative to discord. Pre-enshitification discord, but it’d again be up to a single entity whether it stays that way.
I don’t mind paying for hosting, but I don’t want to jump from one centralised platform to the next.
Federation is on the 2026 roadmap for Fluxer, and while I’m sceptical they pull it off in that timeframe Hampus (the developer) has stated it to be a high priority for the project. Fluxer is also open source, which Discord never was. If it takes off and Hampus goes evil corpo it can be forked.
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Worth noting that the Plutonium subscription of Fluxer is irrelevant if you self host - you will have all features available and unlocked for free.
For me this sounds like a perfect compromise. “Discord Nitro” style monetisation is effective and compelling and like it or not a true competitor needs a revenue stream from somewhere and I have serious doubts about the viability of donation-only monetisation at this scale.
In my eyes, the only sensible way of building such a platform at scale is having it be federated. Otherwise you can host a server - and if you’re unlucky, might need accounts on five servers to access all the groups you want.
If their federation implementation comes relatively prompt and is workable, that’s great. If not, it feels like a way to bootstrap a centralised alternative to discord. Pre-enshitification discord, but it’d again be up to a single entity whether it stays that way.
I don’t mind paying for hosting, but I don’t want to jump from one centralised platform to the next.
Federation is on the 2026 roadmap for Fluxer, and while I’m sceptical they pull it off in that timeframe Hampus (the developer) has stated it to be a high priority for the project. Fluxer is also open source, which Discord never was. If it takes off and Hampus goes evil corpo it can be forked.
I’ll be interested to see their implementation, though it likely won’t replace matrix for me.