You’re making a lot of deeply flawed assumptions here.
Imagining bad scenarios doesn’t mean it’s the only thing one can imagine. Also, I don’t think the person specified in what way “we” are screwed; it could have been humanity in general, which would be akin to science fiction as a cautionary tale; it could have been internationally. Also, people often have mixed feelings about technology, and one person expressing a single comment of caution I think hardly defines the failure of all of whatever “western” civilization is.
It’s kind of fun to see you recognize that there are assumptions at play, and then do the same yourself.
Technology as a threat. What if the threat is not the technology, but the west’s inability to keep their resources from being stolen by shareholders and billionaires?
Because that is what is holding us back from developing and making the future ourselves.
we just watch all of our resources go to infighting, incompetent management egos, and mega-yachts and fighting progress.
China produced more billionaires than the US this last year. Clearly things are not what they appear anymore.
Also, the West has been completely fascist for a very long time thus the system is supposed give all the resources to the wealthy. Democracy and China’s communism are just window dressings for capitalists.
I’m not making any assumptions, I’m going by what I see as the predominant narrative regarding any new technology in the west. All I see is people moaning how AI or robots will end us all. Whether they’re referring to us collectively or just to the west is irrelevant.
My point is that people living under the dictatorship of capital have a negative view of technology because technological progress isn’t used in public interest. It’s used by the oligarchs for oppression and surveillance, and hence people fear that any new technology will be used to repress them further.
We can contrast this with the mood I’m China where most people are optimistic regarding technological progress because they see technology improving their lives with things like high speed trains, amazing public infrastructure, factory automation, and so on.
i wish you could recognize that you consume just as much propaganda as the chinese, the difference being that your propaganda is aimed at keeping you small and fight your own fellow citizens, whereas the chinese propaganda is telling it’s people that they are doing great things, and how they can shape the world by working together.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
This is the official technology community of Lemmy.ml for all news related to creation and use of technology, and to facilitate civil, meaningful discussion around it.
Ask in DM before posting product reviews or ads. All such posts otherwise are subject to removal.
Rules:
1: All Lemmy rules apply
2: Do not post low effort posts
3: NEVER post naziped*gore stuff
4: Always post article URLs or their archived version URLs as sources, NOT screenshots. Help the blind users.
5: personal rants of Big Tech CEOs like Elon Musk are unwelcome (does not include posts about their companies affecting wide range of people)
6: no advertisement posts unless verified as legitimate and non-exploitative/non-consumerist
7: crypto related posts, unless essential, are disallowed
You’re making a lot of deeply flawed assumptions here.
Imagining bad scenarios doesn’t mean it’s the only thing one can imagine. Also, I don’t think the person specified in what way “we” are screwed; it could have been humanity in general, which would be akin to science fiction as a cautionary tale; it could have been internationally. Also, people often have mixed feelings about technology, and one person expressing a single comment of caution I think hardly defines the failure of all of whatever “western” civilization is.
It’s kind of fun to see you recognize that there are assumptions at play, and then do the same yourself. Technology as a threat. What if the threat is not the technology, but the west’s inability to keep their resources from being stolen by shareholders and billionaires? Because that is what is holding us back from developing and making the future ourselves. we just watch all of our resources go to infighting, incompetent management egos, and mega-yachts and fighting progress.
China produced more billionaires than the US this last year. Clearly things are not what they appear anymore.
Also, the West has been completely fascist for a very long time thus the system is supposed give all the resources to the wealthy. Democracy and China’s communism are just window dressings for capitalists.
Now that they’re successful you want to claim its capitalism? Nope. Its socialism, always has been.
The protest in Tiananmen Square were anti-western capitalist reforms. Sad to know you can’t be bothered with actual history.
There was never socialism or communism. It was a dictatorship that turned fascist.
You want proof? Billionaires buddy.
I’m not making any assumptions, I’m going by what I see as the predominant narrative regarding any new technology in the west. All I see is people moaning how AI or robots will end us all. Whether they’re referring to us collectively or just to the west is irrelevant.
My point is that people living under the dictatorship of capital have a negative view of technology because technological progress isn’t used in public interest. It’s used by the oligarchs for oppression and surveillance, and hence people fear that any new technology will be used to repress them further.
We can contrast this with the mood I’m China where most people are optimistic regarding technological progress because they see technology improving their lives with things like high speed trains, amazing public infrastructure, factory automation, and so on.
I want to give you a hug. You must consume so much propaganda to think us different.
i wish you could recognize that you consume just as much propaganda as the chinese, the difference being that your propaganda is aimed at keeping you small and fight your own fellow citizens, whereas the chinese propaganda is telling it’s people that they are doing great things, and how they can shape the world by working together.
What an insightful counterpoint you’ve mustered there, I’m truly in awe at the quality of your intellect.