The fuck? Are you suggesting there is somehow a better way for people to find indie games? Let’s say steam doesn’t exist at all, and every indie dev has to host their own website and files…tell me how you plan on getting people to find their games?
Uhh no…no they didn’t. B&Ms existed before the net and digital copies became Common place. The indie scene exploded with steam/itch/gog storefronts. The hell are you talking about, find me multiple indie games that have awards from decades ago. I’ll wait.
Steam has been around for 2 decades now, and I’ll ask again. Please find me a indie game that had success when steam wasn’t around, and find me one that made it in brick and mortar stores that didn’t take 30%+
The second hand market wasn’t killed because of steam, it was killed because of digitalizing everything…on top of that. The fact that you think physical copies allowed indie games to exist, shows how extremely ignorant of this topic you are. Physical media is extremely expensive, and was not available for anyone unless a publisher took a chance on you. Even if steam didn’t exist, companies would have moved to digital anyways because its cheaper and more people get the product.
It was killed by steam, they did accelerate the transition and you have no right to transfer the game licence to anybody else.
CDROM wasn’t expensive. Did you see the games price significantly cut since it is digital ?
Owning a product doesn’t need to go through a physical media. You can buy digital version too.
It wasn’t killed by steam, it was killed by technological progress. CDroms were absolutely expensive to produce, print, ship etc. What do price cuts have to do with availability? As I asked before, when since steam did indie games have the audience they have now?
Also why say CD-ROM wasn’t expensive and then bring up digital? You’re not doing anything to prove steam is this evil thing.
Cool, that still doesn’t answer the question…and if you’re suggesting that people build a decentralized platform to rival steam…no one is stopping them from doing so.
Luckily your computer can run any software you want so there’s no need to build any platform to play videogames.
I was reply to your concern of people not being able to find their games, the fediverse is an example of how you can build a non centralized network and still bring people together.
Luckily your computer can run any software you want so there’s no need to build any platform to play videogames.
What’s the point of this comment? This doesn’t answer the question.
I was reply to your concern of people not being able to find their games, the fediverse is an example of how you can build a non centralized network and still bring people together.
Nobody. Valve spend millions on advertising to remain popular and outshadow competitors. As a result there are many brainwashed fools who go around defending the company like you can see in this thread
I’ve literally never seen a tv ad for valve…hell I think I saw a print add in a gaming mag one time…but they really don’t need to spend money on advertising, they provide a service better than anyone else and that’s what keeps them around…EGS has been giving away titles for years now and they’re platform still sucks and is a reason they’re not as big as steam, not because of advertising.
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The fuck? Are you suggesting there is somehow a better way for people to find indie games? Let’s say steam doesn’t exist at all, and every indie dev has to host their own website and files…tell me how you plan on getting people to find their games?
Yes. They did that decades without sharing their profits.
Uhh no…no they didn’t. B&Ms existed before the net and digital copies became Common place. The indie scene exploded with steam/itch/gog storefronts. The hell are you talking about, find me multiple indie games that have awards from decades ago. I’ll wait.
They was selling on their websites. There was also shops and a second hand market that this platform killed.
Steam has been around for 2 decades now, and I’ll ask again. Please find me a indie game that had success when steam wasn’t around, and find me one that made it in brick and mortar stores that didn’t take 30%+
They cannot reasonably derive 30% when others take 12 at equal service and at the same time show record profits.
People usually don’t speak about the second hand market : how many shops have they closed ? How many were laid off ?
The second hand market wasn’t killed because of steam, it was killed because of digitalizing everything…on top of that. The fact that you think physical copies allowed indie games to exist, shows how extremely ignorant of this topic you are. Physical media is extremely expensive, and was not available for anyone unless a publisher took a chance on you. Even if steam didn’t exist, companies would have moved to digital anyways because its cheaper and more people get the product.
It was killed by steam, they did accelerate the transition and you have no right to transfer the game licence to anybody else. CDROM wasn’t expensive. Did you see the games price significantly cut since it is digital ? Owning a product doesn’t need to go through a physical media. You can buy digital version too.
It wasn’t killed by steam, it was killed by technological progress. CDroms were absolutely expensive to produce, print, ship etc. What do price cuts have to do with availability? As I asked before, when since steam did indie games have the audience they have now?
Also why say CD-ROM wasn’t expensive and then bring up digital? You’re not doing anything to prove steam is this evil thing.
You are on lemmy, a open source and decentralized platform where thousand of different instances federate with each others…
Cool, that still doesn’t answer the question…and if you’re suggesting that people build a decentralized platform to rival steam…no one is stopping them from doing so.
Luckily your computer can run any software you want so there’s no need to build any platform to play videogames.
I was reply to your concern of people not being able to find their games, the fediverse is an example of how you can build a non centralized network and still bring people together.
What’s the point of this comment? This doesn’t answer the question.
Ok then what’s stopping people from doing that?
Nobody. Valve spend millions on advertising to remain popular and outshadow competitors. As a result there are many brainwashed fools who go around defending the company like you can see in this thread
I’ve literally never seen a tv ad for valve…hell I think I saw a print add in a gaming mag one time…but they really don’t need to spend money on advertising, they provide a service better than anyone else and that’s what keeps them around…EGS has been giving away titles for years now and they’re platform still sucks and is a reason they’re not as big as steam, not because of advertising.