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**TLDR: To promote unity and simplicity, we're 'merging' with c/Android over at lemdro.id (a new, tech-focused Lemmy server!)** Don't worry, you don't need to make a new account. You can still join it even if your account is on Lemmy.World — just click this link [c/Android at Lemdro.id](/c/[email protected]) and subscribe, the same way you did here. Indeed, many of you are already based on instances other than LW — that's the handy thing about the fediverse. # Why are you doing this? We've thought hard on this decision, and had some long chats with not only the team running c/Android over there, but also the admin of lemdro.id itself. Our feeling, and our decision, is that while having multiple communities for the same topic is a key strength of the fediverse, **we're keen to avoid unnecessary fragmentation for existing members and confusion for any newcomers.** As most of you know, the team at lemdro.id are experienced moderators, having run the Android subreddit before *The Great API Quake of 2023.* # Why don't they simply join us here? LW is a great instance, but lemdro.id's entire purpose is tech, and its admin is working hard to make it the fastest and most robust instance around for people like us. It's the right home for this community. # How does it benefit me? We're hopeful that our goal of a community managed by experienced moderators is aligned with your expectations for a well-run, respectful community. We also believe that a fast, dedicated 'world' of tech communities will prove ideal for people like us — people who expect excellent uptime and reliable, fast loading of its features and functions. (No pressure, lemdro.id team! 😂) Lastly... Well, see the next point. # What happens to this community? **We have locked this community.** As we've said above, we want to avoid fragmentation and duplication of threads, and that's best achieved by not having two identical communities. Unfortunately, we can't just pack up all the threads here and take them to lemdro.id, but they'll live on as an archive. It'll always be here if we need it, but right now it's only a few weeks old — despite its massive growth — which means locking it won't rob us of too much historical content. See you over at [c/Android at Lemdro.id](/c/[email protected])!
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Thanks Jeff, I appreciate the candour and respectful response here. I confess I was initially miffed that somebody would promote a ‘competing’ c here, but I quickly realised I’m not interested in rivalries here. Life’s busy enough as it is!

I think we’re doing pretty well here, but the idea of an instance dedicated to tech is appealing. Happy to chat about it. I’m @mikestevens on Telegram.


I don’t think this thread was created by one of them — the creator of this thread isn’t listed as a mod over there.

Like @Devgard I was tempted to lock or delete this thread — I feel like it’s a bit of a shitty thing to post — but it’s pretty clear from the upvotes that most people are excited for it. So… Whatever will be, will be!


That, and you still can’t follow hashtags in the official app. Kinda insane really.


Ah damn it, that’s what I was doing wrong. Thanks!

Post needs a major update already 😂


Seems like some habits are going to follow us from reddit. Downvoting at the drop of a hat is such a miserable shitty thing to do, but many seem wedded to it.


Great news. I’m probably more likely to use Sync, but seeing not one but two well regarded Android Reddit apps migrate to Lemmy is just bloody awesome.



![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b0c5a6b4-eb21-4bbd-be88-21c4fb0e4c2b.jpeg) >"I didn't do anything to deserve this. The phone sat on my desk while I wrote about it, and I would occasionally stop to poke the screen, take a screenshot, or open and close it. It was never dropped or exposed to a significant amount of grit, nor had it gone through the years of normal wear and tear that phones are expected to survive. This was the lightest possible usage of a phone, and it still broke." This can happen to any phone of course — there are numerous threads on reddit of faulty S23 phones that are only days old, and of course the first Galaxy fold phones were problematic — but still. Rough start!
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Go for it!

I do wonder though if we’d be better off with a series of threads devoted to particular app types… A thread for task/project management apps, a thread for notes apps, etc.

My fellow Aussie, Sam Beckman, does great weekly vids on his favourite Android apps. https://youtube.com/@sambeckman


THREAD OF THREADS: Useful Android discussions
I'll try to keep this post updated with links to important ongoing threads, so that we can hopefully avoid dozens of threads on the same topic. I won't be deleting many duplicate threads as they appear, but it'd be great if folks can check here before posting a topic or question. 📱 [What phone are you using?](https://lemmy.world/post/52129) ✨ [Which niche phone features would appeal to you?](https://lemmy.world/post/312761) 🎧 [Phones with headphone jacks](https://lemmy.world/post/641115) 🚀 [Favourite launchers](https://lemmy.world/post/452301) 🤖 [Popular custom ROMs](https://lemmy.world/post/357012) 🤏 [Small Android phones](https://lemmy.world/post/292981) 💵 [Barebones, low-cost phones](https://lemmy.world/post/344884) 💊 [Best Android tablet apps](https://lemmy.world/post/250192) 🎮 [Best free Android apps and games](https://lemmy.world/post/176554) 🚙 [Android Auto bugs & complaints](https://lemmy.world/post/246433) # Pixel tablet threads [Verge review](https://lemmy.world/post/330789) [MKBHD review](https://lemmy.world/post/349672) [Things the Pixel Tablet does better than iPad ](https://lemmy.world/post/736209) [Review megathread](https://lemmy.world/post/340360) # Pixel Fold threads [Amadeo's Pixel Fold dead after 4 days](https://lemmy.world/post/661682) # Android 14 [List of changes and features](https://lemmy.world/post/66614) [Beta 13.1 available](https://lemmy.world/post/136553)
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Well yeah, but that’s the difference between volunteering and being on a big salary. Hopefully the influx of new users will lead to more code input though, and more donations.


Assistant: “I’m not seeing a broadcast number for…”
Has anybody else encountered this? I used to be able to broadcast to my son's bedroom speaker via the usual Assistant command of 'broadcast to...', but that was before he had his own google profile (which is managed by me through Google Family Link). Ever since then, when I try to broadcast, I now get this (with his full name instead of just the speaker name, which is only his first name). And googling by the exact wording of the message, and things like "add broadcast number to a Google account", has so far given me nothing. ![](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8d717b83-b4e1-4094-bb7c-40f31fda5af6.png) Obviously I can just rename the speaker, but I'm keen to know what's causing this and whether this so-called broadcast number can be added to his account.
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Haha, how ironic. I downloaded the old Lemmur from F-Droid today, having no idea it had been abandoned. When I couldn’t add lemmy.world, I knew something was up.

It’s a good looking app, so good on your resurrecting it!

As for a name… Given it’s a resurrected app, how about Zommur? 😁


Haha, well sure they are, but requiring the correct case when @mentioning someone isn’t very user-friendly — and it’s certainly rare to the point of more likely being a bug.


Really? Wow! How do you find it?



Just posting the Verge's review for now, but feel free to throw others in. Gotta say, it is dumb as hell that the speaker can't be a speaker on its own. So if I'm listening to music, I can't pick up the tablet and move over to the couch without severing the audio connection. That is bananas. I'm sure it's a cost thing, given it'd need a chip of its own, but ffs.
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Can’t believe the @ mention function is case sensitive 😂


A quick thanks to this Android community
Ahoy all, Unless [@[email protected]](https://lemmy.world/u/Devgard) corrects me, I think I'm right in saying we've only had two reports so far in this community, and even those were very low-level issues. So, I just wanted to quickly say thanks for the great vibes and mostly mature approach to your discussions — and for not being overzealous with the ol' 🛡 report button. Nearly 6000 members now, which is awesome. Cheers all!
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Damn mate, this is pretty substantial already. Well done!


I’m a bit of a niche case perhaps, but I use my Tab S8 for photo editing, drawing, watching videos, etc.




Alas no, I prefer Mac. That’s why I was focused on a Web interface, haha.


Samsung Notes: Why no web interface?! 😡
It drives me nuts that Samsung Notes is frankly one of the best notes apps out there, yet is only *properly* accessible from phones and tablets. I'm not using a notes app that I can't sync to my desktop, and I'm sure as shit not using OneNote to do it. Samsung makes laptops, why do they not consider it a priority to have a proper end-to-end UX for their Notes app? (Apple, gasp, does this very well.) There are plenty of awesome alternatives, of course, but still. It's right there on my phone and I'd love to use it, but if I can't put my phone down and continue working on that note on my desktop, it's wasted to me. /rant As it is, I mostly use Keep for basic stuff (since it *still* lacks formatting), and Notion for more extensive pages. What are your preferred notes apps?
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Ah that sucks. I admit I’ve never noticed as I use dark mode permanently!


Motorola MA1 for me, works every time without fail. I’m a motoring journalist so I’m in new cars all the time, and the MA1 provides an identical connection speed and stability to what I experience on those cars with wireless AA already equipped.


I’m pretty glad to have both options. I take your point about using it while charging, but I also find myself having to jump up from my desk quite a bit, and it’s nice to be able to just pick up my phone without first unplugging it. And I imagine all of that plugging and unplugging is reducing the durability of the port over time.


Yep. As a motoring journalist myself, I get to use wireless AA in a lot of new cars and it’s mostly fine now (if not perfect).


Yeah I don’t even bother using it with a cable, it’s a shit experience. If the car I’m in doesn’t have wireless AA, I just take a cradle and use my phone display as my infotainment display.

Wireless AA is a bit crap in some cars, great in others. Often gets taken out or interrupted by overhead e-tag gantries too, but I find it reconnects/resumes quickly enough.


I’m not too surprised by this, tbh. Cars are a lethal object, and even though you can get all manner of aftermarket infotainment systems, that doesn’t mean Google would want to have any culpability in a crash that occurred using a system running in an open-source system of its own making. You know how the legal system can be when apportioning blame…


Well actually, they haven’t officially said. This article might’ve just stumbled upon a bug. One of the commenters suggests he could do it for a while, but not after a dot update.


So far I’ve only given my kids Samsung tablets and no phones yet, but Google’s Family Link has pretty solid features and usability.


Asking for recommendations usually means hoping your peers will have personal experience, which beats just searching for phones and reading the reviews that may or may not have ill intent.


The Android Auto Complaints Line: Drop 'em here
Man, I'm glad Android Auto exists, I'm glad it's finally appearing in more new cars with wireless connectivity (although MANY new cars still only have wireless carplay and wired Android), and I'm glad we're finally getting the ability to open Google Maps on our phones while it's also open on the car's display. But damn it still does some dumb shit. I'll just drop this one for now: I find it weird and dumb that Google Maps in Android Auto will let you send a progress share to a contact's email address but not to their phone number as a text message with a link. An email address *might* send a notification to somebody's Google Maps app, but it's certainly never happened on my partner's iPhone. She just gets a link via email, and she is *not* the checking email sort — so I usually follow up with a text message telling her to check her email. 😑 (I wish she'd just get a Samsung...)
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Yeah, this is the way. Phones are more than big enough these days!


Came here to say this. Others would require mounting an Android tablet, I imagine.


There are some good points here, but as commenters on the post have noted, you can achieve a similar level of ecosystem integration with Samsung devices. I have an S23U and a Tab S8, and they’re beautifully integrated.

It’s true that Apple has a much faster cadence of adding clever or exciting new features, but I can’t remember the last one that took up a rent-free lease in my head.

Really, I’m my own worst enemy with some of the stuff. I prefer Android over iOS, but I prefer MacOS over Windows. So, because I have a macbook, I’m missing out on the deeper integration Windows and Android users get.

That said, I’ve used Windows Phone Link on a work computer, and feels a lot clunkier than the way my old iPhone integrated with my Macbook. Hell, it doesn’t even support RCS. That is just egregious.


Yeah I like the Samsung browser too. I think I’m just too obsessed with chrome’s tab grouping. Can’t bring myself to give it up!


Those all sound like fair complaints! Pretty glad I don’t use it much, haha. My main purpose for it is sharing photos of my kids with my parents a few states away.


What do you dislike about the current design? I don’t use it all that often, but it seems fine for the most part.


Did Google ever say why it killed the bottom address bar in Chrome? (And what’s your fave browser?)
Because damn that's annoying. With phones being massive now, it makes little sense to make us reach up to the top of the screen to swipe between tabs. Do all their chrome devs just have super long fingers..? I tried switching to Firefox, which has the URL box at the bottom, but the lack of tab grouping (not the same thing as Firefox's tab collections) is really annoying. I've come to love that feature in Chrome! So, next question... What's your fave browser on Android, and how well does it handle syncing with the desktop?
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What phone are you using?

Galaxy S23 Ultra.

Are you happy with it? What are its best and worst qualities?

Absolutely love it. It’s only the second Galaxy model to be sold with the Snapdragon chip in 🇦🇺 Australia, after the S22. I had an S21 Ultra (Exynos) and decided to wait for the S23, because of the rumours that the cameras would be improved.

Glad I waited, and also very glad to have an included stylus, because I’m a photographer and designer, so the stylus is bloody useful!

I honestly can’t think of an downsides to this phone, I’m so damn satisfied with it.

Which phones have you had previously? Which were the best and worst of the lot?

As noted above, I had the S21 Ultra previously. I actually bought a Pixel 7 Pro when it was released, but after about a month I decided that while it was a great phone with some clever new features, I still preferred my S21 Ultra — so I sold the Pixel 7 Pro and went back to my Samsung!

Other previous phones, let me think… First modern smartphone was the iPhone 3G, followed by iPhone 4, iPhone 5S, HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Sony XPeria V, LG Nexus 5X, Google Pixel, Google Pixel 2, iPhone 11 Pro, Samsung Galaxy S10, iPhone 13 Pro, Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra, S23 Ultra.

Not sure if that order is exactly right… haha.

How often do you upgrade to a new phone?

Usually every year, to be honest, which obviously isn’t super responsible either financially or in terms of e-waste, but it really is my number one addiction. 😂

What other Android ecosystem devices do you have? Watches, headphones/earbuds, etc.

Galaxy Watch 4, Pixel Watch, Galaxy Tab S4 (now my son’s), Galaxy Tab S6 Lite (now my daughter’s), and a Galaxy Tab S8.

Oh, and the Chromecast with Google TV.

Do you also use any Apple products, or are you Android all the way? (And/or Windows, Linux, ChromeOS, etc.)

I have an iPad Pro A12X (pre-M1, annoyingly) for drawing with Procreate, and I still have my iPhone 13 Pro — mostly just for shooting videos for work, since phone gimbals integrate better with iOS than they do with Android (or maybe just Samsung). I also have a work-supplied MacBook Pro 14" M1 Max.

Lastly, I also have a pair of AirPods Pro that I bought for my iPhone but now mostly only use with my Macbook, and a pair of Beats Fit Pro that I absolutely love using with my S23 Ultra. I was tempted by the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro, but I really prefer buds with winglets for a more secure fit.


What phone are you using?
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So, I thought I'd kick things off here with some community building. **Quote this post with answers to the below!** What phone are you using? Are you happy with it? What are its best and worst qualities? Which phones have you had previously? Which were the best and worst of the lot? How often do you upgrade to a new phone? What other Android ecosystem devices do you have? Watches, headphones/earbuds, etc. Do you also use any Apple products, or are you Android all the way? (And/or Windows, Linux, ChromeOS, etc.)
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That’s pretty weird. Are you using a Pixel? I’ve heard of some of them having a bug that matches what you describe.

Other than that, it makes no sense at all!