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Who isnt going to go along with it?
Gotta be like 90% of people have never installed an OS because Windows was already on their PC when they bought it.
To them, its part of buying a PC. They don’t consider the OS a separate purchase.
If they make this move they’re banking on people not noticing until after they’ve bought a shiny new PC. After that most people will suffer the cost because they already own the PC and its just “easier.”
But will it actually be ad-free, or just personalized ad-free?
Because if it’s actually ad-free, you might find a decent number of people willing to pay it. (Especially those without the technical know-how to block ads, a small fee is probably worth it to them.)
If it’s just personalized ad-free, and still has generic ads, you’ll have basically nobody who gives enough of a shit to pay.
You realize you can be rude and uncivil without directly name-calling, right? The rule is “Be civil” not “no name calling.”
So you live under a rock.
Mischaracterizing what I’m saying and claiming I’m blaming others, etc. Like dude, check yourself. Learn how to speak to others without being an aggressive asshole and maybe you won’t deal with people reporting you.
I was just pointing out that Valve did the same thing as Blizzard, and you jumped down my throat for it because I guess you must be some Valve fanboy. Gimme a break, man.
EDIT: I’m not so much of a pussy that I need to block everyone who has been rude to me.
Reporting the announcement of the game and talking about how it will replace the base game are two different things. Lots of articles about the announcement, very few about how it would replace the base game.
So you live under a rock
I’m an adult with responsibilities and over 300 games in my Steam library. I’ve got way better shit to do than make sure every time there’s a new release that I’m going to lose games I paid for years ago. Jesus Christ man. Reported, you don’t gotta be a dick.
EDIT: Lmao, went and downvoted all my posts after I reported him for being a fucking jackass. Stay classy.
CS:GO was a paid game originally as well.
You had half a year to archive CSGO. Don’t act as it came as a surprise or something.
For someone who isn’t huge into CSGO, it actually did come as a surprise for it to disappear from my library today. Sorry not everyone spends their time making sure they know what’s going on with every single game in their library. I’m literally finding this out for the first time today.
In all the reports of CS2 being released, this is the first I’ve heard that the new game would fully replace the old. Once again, I knew about that with Overwatch and I don’t even play Overwatch because people were complaining about this before Overwatch 2 was even released. I was well aware it was getting replaced before release, simply because it was discussed and reported on a lot. There were numerous front page posts on reddit about it, months before release.
The same can’t be said for CS2. It wasn’t talked about a lot by anyone. I only was able to find one specific news article about how it was replacing the old game, after searching today.
I agree with all your points. I guess, to me, it’s just a little silly that they’re under less scrutiny for doing the exact same thing. If Blizzard received scrutiny because it was a anti-consumer choice, it doesn’t stand to reason that people should ignore Valve doing the same.
I’ve been a big fan of Valve for twenty years or more, but I don’t think it’s particularly helpful to ignore when they do anti-consumer things.
I’m just a little surprised there’s not more pushback considering that Valve just did with CS:GO and CS2 almost exactly what Blizzard did with Overwatch and Overwatch 2.
CS:GO literally disappeared from my Steam Library and was replaced with CS2. I get that CS:GO’s servers were already down, but it still feels wild to just wholesale remove it from people’s libraries this many years later. I felt similarly about Overwatch 2, but Blizzard caught a lot more heat for that than I’ve seen from the Valve fan community so far.
I know CS:GO has been Free to Play for a long time, but seriously, this is kind of a big fuck you to any archivists who wanted to keep a copy around for history’s sake.
I kind of want Larian to start making a bunch of promotional videos mimicking Valve’s “Meet the…” series from Team Fortress 2, but for the origin characters.
I kind of never cared for the Overwatch hero videos, they were too serious. The TF2 videos were always absurd and hilarious. (Massively disappointed to this day that Adult Swim never picked up the TF2 show for a full series.)
While the game is very serious, there’s a lot of funny stuff in it (and I don’t just mean Karlach dancing at hilariously inappropriate times). I think Larian has the humorous abilities to pull this kind of thing off, and it will continue to highlight how important the characters and character development are to this game.
EDIT: Yes, this is also so we can get some modern, high-quality video of the absurd shit Minsc got up to before BG3. BG and BG2 callbacks, yeah!
on a book is pirating said book.
If the source is literally a piracy website that serves up applications on how to remove DRM from ebooks, it’s absolutely piracy. You can’t just deny the source and be like “it’s not piracy!” The way the data came into your hands was illicitly, not legally. Especially if DRM has been circumvented and removed before it came into your hands.
They didn’t go out and buy copies of thousands of books.
Pretty amusing that you think scraping published data somehow constitutes surveillance, though.
I don’t, I was making a point about how absurdly large the language models have to be, which is to say, if they have to have that much data on top of thousands of pirated books, it means they fundamentally cannot make the models work without also scraping the internet for data, which is surveillance.
Right, you can still do traditional advertising without the targeted metrics provided by smartphones, but…
AI LLMs literally require a corpus of language to learn from. Thus the “Large Language” part of “LLM.” The amount of data these models need to function is so staggeringly huge there is no way they can compile all that data without scraping the entire internet and pirating a bunch of copyrighted books.
It’s fundamentally a surveillance technology, because the technology fundamentally cannot function without that large dataset of language to begin with. It needs massive amounts of data that have to be surveilled to be achieved, because unless you’re Reddit or Facebook, your own site probably doesn’t contain enough data to fill out the needs of the LLM. Thus you need to scrape the internet for more data in hopes of filling it out.
Books3 is used widely as part of “The Pile” and is clearly all of the content of private torrent tracker Bibliotik. People theorize Books2 is all of the books from Library Genesis. To be able to make their models work, they have to scrape the internet and pirate thousands of books to make it functional at all.
This is also fundamentally why AI starts to fail so quickly, because these tools have been used to flood the internet with AI generated pages, which in turn become training data for AI, which means the training data is tainted with AI generated garbage, which will further degrade the LLM. On the plus side, I guess, is that if they keep using this kind of business model, they will unintentionally make their AI pretty useless within a few years by flooding the internet with useless, incorrect data.
Books3 is the definition of “not publicly available” because it’s all from pirated material downloaded from private torrent tracker Bibliotik.
Books3 is literally why several of AI groups are being sued by various authors like Sarah Silverman and George R.R. Martin.
Books3 was always illicitly obtained material which put into question whether an LLM using it could really fall under Fair Use. (It most likely does, but it’s still a legal question that hasn’t been answered yet.)
Books3 Link: https://huggingface.co/datasets/the_pile_books3
Books3 Description from Link:
This dataset is Shawn Presser’s work and is part of EleutherAi/The Pile dataset.
This dataset contains all of bibliotik in plain .txt form, aka 197,000 books processed in exactly the same way as did for bookcorpusopen (a.k.a. books1). seems to be similar to OpenAI’s mysterious “books2” dataset referenced in their papers. Unfortunately OpenAI will not give details, so we know very little about any differences. People suspect it’s “all of libgen”, but it’s purely conjecture.
That’s legit a bummer, friend. I guess what I should have also said is: art is subjective. My take doesn’t make it true (it’s just like, my opinion, man), but I think that while it’s a bummer for you, if you really think it’s a good game, it won’t stop you from enjoying it for a long time. I hope you do.
I’m going to just shit out my ultimate unpopular opinion right here, in mild defense of Endorkend, thanks.
If a plot point is enough to ruin a story, it was not a well written story to begin with.
Stories live and die through character development and growth. Weak stories often rely on things like twists and unexpected plot turns. Strong stories can often have these elements, but they don’t lean on them.
Strong stories I return to again and again, because the story is strong even though I already know the story. Knowing the story doesn’t ruin repeat watches/plays/readings of the media if the story is successful at being a good story. Well written stories with deep, interesting characters achieve that.
I’ve been playing Starfield and it has somehow worse writing and voice acting than a lot of previous Bethesda titles, which is saying a lot because it’s not like they’re not well known for weak writing at this point. It has a lot of strengths that have been kind of overlooked because it’s just generally kind of boring, but it does have them. Those strengths are not in the storytelling.
I don’t think this plot point spoils the game at all, instead it reveals how utterly weak the narrative they’ve crafted is.
I think it is probably more about how Books3 is and was always the full content of a torrent site for books.
Fair Use is all fine and good but its very telling that these companies are happy to justify piracy when its convenient for them and then oppose it when it is not.
It is rather hypocritical and there is also questions whether Fair Use can apply to a non-human. People generating art and text with it are in a weird grey area, because on one hand it can be argued they are using a tool, but on the other, the results are so random: how much influence does the user actually have over what they create? If the answer is “not much influence” then the tool is creating the art, not the person. At that point, is it really reasonable to argue “fair use?”
Google is sitting on the “but they’re contractors!” angle because it makes it easier for them.
Why?
Because once the union does collective bargaining with their actual employer, Cognizant, the company will have almost no recourse but to increase fees to Google for the contract work.
Once this happens, Google just says “Oops, you’re shit out of luck” and then hires a whole new company of contracted workers for the same work, for cheaper.
Google purposefully uses this type of structure to ensure they never have to pay more, even when collective bargaining with unions does happen. Because then they can just shitcan the whole company and claim costs were too high. They certainly won’t break their contract, but you can bet your ass when time comes to renew it, Google will have found someone new to take their place.
They deserve to be afraid when their decisions easily ruin lives.
They act like the results of their decisions aren’t their responsibility.
They’ve been allowed to run wild with their greed for far too long and now they have taken the masks off.
They cruelty is the point, they want us hurting and disorganized. They start shitting bricks when people organize.
The use of command line is literally Linux’s biggest strength and why they dominate the server space. Linux servers can be run “headless” with no monitor and no Graphical User Interface. Command Line only. GUI takes so much processing power from the CPU/GPU and it eats up RAM.
Until very recently, Windows servers required much higher system specs to run the server because windows was never primarily command line. You always had to have a GUI, no headless.
MS has gone whole hog with PowerShell, their answer to Linux. They even have versions of server that run headless now.
Sorry, I just think its a little funny that your biggest complaint is the thing that made Linux so powerful and that Windows has been playing catch-up with Linux in that arena for over a decade now.
Projecting? You only know of me what you’ve seen in a few threads, and I only know of you what I’ve seen in a few threads. What I saw was a guy acting like an arrogant prick, even when people were polite and agreed with them. You’ve continued this arrogance and acting like you know better than anyone else in every thread you’ve popped up in. You’re an elitist, yet you preach not using “classist” speech. I don’t know if you’re projecting, you’re a troll, or if you’re just a very sad broken person who can’t be fucked to be nice, but I just know you’ve rubbed me the fucking wrong way after I was super polite to you after a misunderstanding. An unwillingness to give basic human decency and politeness in return makes me think you’re a raging asshole, and any time I find you popping up in threads being an asshole I’m gonna dump on your ridiculous fucking takes.
So it went from “consumers don’t know any better” to “if consumers haven’t aggregated all this data to prove it, it means they’re dumb.” That’s a big fuckin leap, you know, to go from “it’s because they lost a file and are too dumb to understand” to numerous people reporting failures of their drives, to where they are unmountable, and it’s their fault for not collating all the data first. One might even call it “moving goalposts.” I doubt people who are busy worrying about lost data have the time to be organizing a nationwide call to data harvesting for this.
For someone who ostensibly hates capitalism or something, you sure have a funny way of showing it by defending corporate malfeasance by claiming consumer stupidity. Which once again is elitist, and hypocritical coming from you, specifically. Maybe try practicing what you preach.
Then look at this thread, everything you’re asking for is already linked in this thread. The original complaint, the first time Ars wrote about it a year ago, the reddit threads discussing it, everything.
If you had bothered to read instead of demand it being spoon fed to you, maybe you’d already realize it’s not about consumers “losing a file” its about read/write errors and total failure of drives up to and including wholesale loss of all data. It’s specifically about SSDs and how these drives aren’t living up to expected read/write cycles as advertised. Also, SanDisk/WD already released a patch that was supposed to fix things in many of these drives, and the patch seems to have not changed any error-causing-behavior. (The fact that they released a patch speaks to this being bigger than a consumer “losing a file.”)
Oh, and if you’re smart enough to be checking the read/write errors you encounter on a drive, you’re probably not just a “tech-illiterate consumer.” Did you forget a large number of casual hobbyists in the technology space actually do such work for a living?
So your “statement of fact” makes you look illiterate because you couldn’t be fucked to read all that in this thread.
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