Personally if I already had a 5800x I probably wouldn’t upgrade to the 3d, though there would likely be some gains, especially if you’re cpu bound on a game.
Here’s like 40 games where they’re compared on a nividia 3090:
https://www.techspot.com/review/2451-ryzen-5800x3d-vs-ryzen-5800x/
I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5800x3d so there was a big boost.
But a 5800x3d isn’t even much cheaper than a 7800x3d, and the socket type switched now. So if I already had a 5800x I’d probably just wait and switch to a 3d chip in the future when I was ready to upgrade my motherboard. If cost is no object and you’re not gonna swap the motherboard for a long time, then yes it’s the best gaming cpu you’re going to be able to use with that board and likely always will be.
That the eye can only perceive 24 fps is a myth. Plus vision perception is very complicated with many different processes, and your eyes and brain don’t strictly perceive things in frames per second. 24 fps is a relatively arbitrary number picked by the early movie industry, to make sure it would stay a good amount above 16 fps (below this you lose the persistence of motion illusion) without wasting too much more film, and is just a nice easily divisible number. The difference between higher frame rates is quite obvious. Just go grab any older pc game to make sure you can get a high frame rate, then cap it to not go higher to 24 after that, and the difference is night and day. Tons of people complaining about how much they hated the look of Hobbit movie with its 48 fps film can attest to this as well. You certainly do start to get some diminishing returns the higher fps you get though. Movies can be shot to deliberately avoid quick camera movements and other things that wouldn’t do well at 24 fps, but video games don’t always have that luxury. For an rpg or something sure 30 fps is probably fine. But fighting, action, racing, anything with a lot of movement or especially quick movements of the camera starts to feel pretty bad at 30 compared to 60.
I don’t think it’s particularly gpu intensive like you’d expect for a graphically intense game, there’s a heavy cpu bottleneck due to Npc calculations, some have suggested due to a lot of physics calculations with npcs. The npcs also have severe pop in issues in the city. For most people playing this the gpu isn’t going to be the issue. Even the most powerful gaming cpus are only able to take it so far in its current state though.
Yeah I wasn’t ready to swap out my whole motherboard and got a 5800x3d. A little on the pricier side still (~$320), but many games really love that extra large cache. Should hopefully keep me going for quite a while before having to upgrade sockets. There’s cheaper options than that that would still be a good upgrade, a 5700x is about $170. A couple games recently like baldurs gate 3 have been very cpu intensive.
Why can’t we just own games anymore? Sure it’d be cool to have your service available on all devices. But once it reaches a critical mass and kills off competitors and other ways of getting games, expect enshittification to ensue, subscriber costs and advertising going way up. Just look at what’s happening with every tv/movie streaming platform now. I’m guessing games you can only access via game pass and can’t purchase separately at all are going to be coming at some point too.
They’ve also stated fsr3 will continue to be open source, and previous versions have been compatible with Vulkan on the developer end at least. I can’t find though if this new hyper rx application running it agnostic to any developer integration is supporting Vulkan though. Guess we’ll find out when it’s released shortly here.
I hope this works out and becomes a viable competitor to DLSS3, especially with this most recent generation of games getting so demanding spec wise. I also appreciate that they make it available for any graphics card from any company. Nvidia certainly has some edge in propiatary features that AMD is having trouble matching at the moment, but Nvidia becoming even more dominant is bad news. Lack of competition will only encourage them to stagnate in the future and increase prices even higher. I’ll probably be looking to upgrade my own gpu soon so am very interested in how the just announced amd 7800xt compares against the Nvidia 4070.
Here’s a link to the gameplay reveal so people can see what you’re talking about:
https://youtu.be/CTNwHShylIg?si=ebVtoc-xD7eVMOjX
The art style and tone looks much better in this than the weird trailer, but the gameplay looks closer to like mass effect 2 than dragon age origins. Probably gonna skip this one.