I don’t know how good Motorola phones came to be with the years, but my first “smart” phone was a Motorola Atrix 4G. You know, the one with a fingerprint sensor in the back, at the top edge. One year exactly after I bought it its wifi/bt card died all of a sudden. Never have looked into their phones ever since.
Their modern hardware is largely nice. But their lack of software updates is awful. I had a budget moto phone that got 0 major android updates. It got an update from 7.1 to 7.1.1. Pulling up random phones on GSM arena it still seems to be the case.
Not the same company, the Motorola Atrix 4G is from 2011, back when Motorola phones were an American owned company.
Lenovo bought Motorola smartphone division in 2014.
12 years with another company, and I think the difference will be quite significant.
You might as well compare to a completely different brand.
They are pretty decent these days. There’s only a handful of options where I live, but I have gone through all of them and Motorola is the only one I don’t really have much to complain about.
Motorola will only have 1 phone with grapheneOS on it and GrapheneOS will dev for that one device but they won’t dev for other Motorola devices. Do not expect to pick up any moto phones except that one device and flash grapheneOS on it.
No, that’s not really accurate. Motorola has in the past offered the “Android One” option which was mostly debloated from the factory. I had one and it was the best factory version of Android I’ve seen, very little bullshit included.
Plus when you install GrapheneOS, ALL of that bullshit goes away for good.
The average person really doesn’t give *that *much of a shit about privacy. If they did FB, Google, etc wouldn’t be so big and profitable as they are. They Apple care about privacy.
Yep the average person tends to prioritise ease of use and simplicity over privacy and most people are willing to give up the privacy for this. Although, the more obvious and in or face the privacy lose comes the less likely they are to go for it. If I went up to a person in real life and said “give me a copy of your government ID and I will perform X service” most people are unlikely to hand over the ID.
If the phones get marketed well enough, people might corelate digital and physical privacy losses
The average people do care about privacy, they just either prioritise ease of use, can’t corelate digital privacy with physical privacy or simply are unaware. If google flashed in big text on the account creation screen the important thing in their privacy policy instead of hiding it, I believe you would have fewer google account creations
I have a Motorola Moto G7 Power and it is a great phone. Mine is running /e/OS, which I know has haters, but it does work.
I originally had it running Lineage, but it wouldn’t pick up my SIM card. /e/OS picks up my SIM, though.
My battery lasts for around 3 days with pretty substantial use. I don’t use any Google apps, though. Only stuff downloaded through F-Droid and Acrescent.
Oh boy they were really good deals. I use one and have thought of getting another. I might get a carrier locked one super cheap since I only want it for local apps anyway.
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I don’t know how good Motorola phones came to be with the years, but my first “smart” phone was a Motorola Atrix 4G. You know, the one with a fingerprint sensor in the back, at the top edge. One year exactly after I bought it its wifi/bt card died all of a sudden. Never have looked into their phones ever since.
Their modern hardware is largely nice. But their lack of software updates is awful. I had a budget moto phone that got 0 major android updates. It got an update from 7.1 to 7.1.1. Pulling up random phones on GSM arena it still seems to be the case.
Not the same company, the Motorola Atrix 4G is from 2011, back when Motorola phones were an American owned company.
Lenovo bought Motorola smartphone division in 2014.
12 years with another company, and I think the difference will be quite significant.
You might as well compare to a completely different brand.
They are pretty decent these days. There’s only a handful of options where I live, but I have gone through all of them and Motorola is the only one I don’t really have much to complain about.
Or in anticipation of the new market with graphene
Yes a cheap phone with GrapheneOS would potentially fly off the shelves
Motorola will only have 1 phone with grapheneOS on it and GrapheneOS will dev for that one device but they won’t dev for other Motorola devices. Do not expect to pick up any moto phones except that one device and flash grapheneOS on it.
Is that their official statement or are you just guessing?
The cheap motorola phones are cheap because they all come with adware and app installers which install apps without your permission.
No, that’s not really accurate. Motorola has in the past offered the “Android One” option which was mostly debloated from the factory. I had one and it was the best factory version of Android I’ve seen, very little bullshit included.
Plus when you install GrapheneOS, ALL of that bullshit goes away for good.
I think the Android One stuff was subsidized by Google
https://veloxity.us/google-smartphone-android-one/
https://telecomtalk.info/google-subsidized-android-one-smartphone-india/119854/
To Lemmy users sure. But who outside of Lemmy, privacy nerds, and android enthusiasts even know what Graphene OS is?
Even my friends who are Android nerds had never heard of it until I started asking them about it. Graphene is a niche of a niche of a niche.
Considering PewDiePie talked about it, and needed on view count, at least a couple million know about it
Nobody really but if they advertise it right it has potential since even normal people care about privacy
The average person really doesn’t give *that *much of a shit about privacy. If they did FB, Google, etc wouldn’t be so big and profitable as they are. They Apple care about privacy.
Yep the average person tends to prioritise ease of use and simplicity over privacy and most people are willing to give up the privacy for this. Although, the more obvious and in or face the privacy lose comes the less likely they are to go for it. If I went up to a person in real life and said “give me a copy of your government ID and I will perform X service” most people are unlikely to hand over the ID.
If the phones get marketed well enough, people might corelate digital and physical privacy losses
If normal people cared about privacy we wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with and the world would look very different today.
I swear Lemmy users are as naive as I was at age 20.
The average people do care about privacy, they just either prioritise ease of use, can’t corelate digital privacy with physical privacy or simply are unaware. If google flashed in big text on the account creation screen the important thing in their privacy policy instead of hiding it, I believe you would have fewer google account creations
The project claims they have ~200k users
Sigh, they couldn’t have waited until after the grapheneOS phone?
The budget devices were never getting GrapheneOS AFAIK.
I assume prices will go up across the range
I had a 3rd Gen Moto G in 2016. It was IPX7 rated, was snappy, Snapdragon CPU, and a perfect size.
Bought a 2022 Moto G Power. Worst phone I’ve ever owned. The MediaTek Helio G37 ridiculously underpowered.
There’s no way I would pay these new prices for a Motorola G anything.
phew. budget smartphones. I was kinda worried.
The mark of well-researched journalism: telling you who is probably to blame.
I have a Motorola Moto G7 Power and it is a great phone. Mine is running /e/OS, which I know has haters, but it does work.
I originally had it running Lineage, but it wouldn’t pick up my SIM card. /e/OS picks up my SIM, though.
My battery lasts for around 3 days with pretty substantial use. I don’t use any Google apps, though. Only stuff downloaded through F-Droid and Acrescent.
Oh boy they were really good deals. I use one and have thought of getting another. I might get a carrier locked one super cheap since I only want it for local apps anyway.
I mean also blame Motorola it’s probably still not necessary for them to do so to keep their profits even.