Lenovo or ASUS? Trying to figure out which laptop to go with.
Which company has a better reputation (in quality, privacy, pricing…), or are they both bad?
EDIT: Please see https://lemmy.world/post/39088746, I have come the the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop
Don’t just consider the brand. You have to consider the line/model.
Lenovo’s consumer lines (Ideapad, Legion, and others) are all absolute garbage, and you shouldn’t consider them for even a second. But their enterprise line (Thinkpad) is generally very, very good. The main problem is that they’re expensive.
Asus is strictly consumer-grade. They do not have an enterprise line. Their build quality is among the best you can find in consumer-grade, but enterprise-grade is always higher quality than consumer-grade.
I would never leave an OEM load on it, so privacy isn’t much of a concern for me. I suspect they’re both pretty bad in this regard.
Much like the consumer lines from other brands, it’s a lot of cost-cutting. Plastic everything, hinges that break prematurely, limited power filtering, that sort of thing.
One that frequently pops up (although I’m not familiar with that particular model) is poor cooling. Heat kills many gaming laptops, either directly or indirectly. That can mean needing more fans/bigger vents, being unable to clean them, or liquid metal thermal paste that leaks and shorts out.
Thinkpads are enterprise machines, so they aren’t really designed for gaming. But there’s a lot of overlap with things like graphics rendering, so they do have some options.
The T series is the standard corporate line (usually T14) for the average office worker. These sometimes have a dGPU available. You’d probably want something in the P line, but those are much more expensive.
Please see https://lemmy.world/post/39088746, I have come the the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop
It took almost a year and a half to get a defective Lenovo monitor replaced. I’ve heard that ASUS has terrible quality control with their motherboards (via Gamers Nexus), not sure if that translates to their other products, but it probably does.
Acer customer service is great though, the company I use now after all the stress Lenovo gave me…
Please see https://lemmy.world/post/39088746, I have come the the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop
You might want to consider gaming on Linux. For that, neither might be a good idea, unless you want to play older games on an older ThinkPad (which a lot of Linux users like to use… a lot). If you want recommendations for Linux-specialized companies, I’d take a look at System76.
I’ve already started saving money for a Framework laptop, so I plan to buy one within a year. I’ve heard a bit about System76—how does it compare to Framework? Is the quality better?
I think with Framework, you have the AMD ST and/or Intel ME, which you can’t disable. Since System76 has Intel CPUs almost exclusively, they’re Corebooted and have ME disabled.
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Don’t just consider the brand. You have to consider the line/model.
Lenovo’s consumer lines (Ideapad, Legion, and others) are all absolute garbage, and you shouldn’t consider them for even a second. But their enterprise line (Thinkpad) is generally very, very good. The main problem is that they’re expensive.
Asus is strictly consumer-grade. They do not have an enterprise line. Their build quality is among the best you can find in consumer-grade, but enterprise-grade is always higher quality than consumer-grade.
I would never leave an OEM load on it, so privacy isn’t much of a concern for me. I suspect they’re both pretty bad in this regard.
Thinkpad was good years ago. Now it’s crap imho.
Why is Legion garbage? Youtube says a lot nice things about it. I’m eyeing legion 7 pro, is there an alternative at ASUS?
Much like the consumer lines from other brands, it’s a lot of cost-cutting. Plastic everything, hinges that break prematurely, limited power filtering, that sort of thing.
One that frequently pops up (although I’m not familiar with that particular model) is poor cooling. Heat kills many gaming laptops, either directly or indirectly. That can mean needing more fans/bigger vents, being unable to clean them, or liquid metal thermal paste that leaks and shorts out.
I have an older Legion, 10th gen i7, 2060, 144hz display, and it’s a perfectly solid machine.
Never given me any issues except its Linux support is kind of so-so.
I would say though that there are other devices out there that are much lighter. This laptop is a chonky boy.
thanks!
I’ve been running an ideapad for 12 years and it’s still going strong. But I wouldn’t be surprized if the newer models are worse.
Get a refurbished thinkpad, should still last a lot longer than a brand new consumer line one.
Is a ThinkPad good for gaming? I’m actually considering a high-end ThinkPad.
Thinkpads are enterprise machines, so they aren’t really designed for gaming. But there’s a lot of overlap with things like graphics rendering, so they do have some options.
The T series is the standard corporate line (usually T14) for the average office worker. These sometimes have a dGPU available. You’d probably want something in the P line, but those are much more expensive.
thanks!
Nah, its still a laptop, for gaming you need a desktop 😅
(j/k) idk i just generally don’t bother trying to play games on laptops since I have a fast desktop for that 😅
thanks!
Not sure about Lenovo, but I would never consider an ASUS laptop after they have been found trying to scam people on warranty issues repeatedly.
Current summary of the Gamers Nexus investigation with links to related videos
thanks!
EDIT:
Please see https://lemmy.world/post/39088746, I have come the the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop
Lenovo was caught putting a root kit on their computers a few years ago. They are no longer an option for me.
https://thehackernews.com/2015/08/lenovo-rootkit-malware.html?m=1
FRAMEWORK!
It took almost a year and a half to get a defective Lenovo monitor replaced. I’ve heard that ASUS has terrible quality control with their motherboards (via Gamers Nexus), not sure if that translates to their other products, but it probably does.
Acer customer service is great though, the company I use now after all the stress Lenovo gave me…
thanks! seems like ASUS is indeed better
EDIT:
He said Acer, not ASUS, customer service is great.
EDIT:
Please see https://lemmy.world/post/39088746, I have come the the conclusion that both Lenovo and ASUS are extremely terrible, anyone who sees this post should go straight to framework laptop
You might want to consider gaming on Linux. For that, neither might be a good idea, unless you want to play older games on an older ThinkPad (which a lot of Linux users like to use… a lot). If you want recommendations for Linux-specialized companies, I’d take a look at System76.
I’ve already started saving money for a Framework laptop, so I plan to buy one within a year. I’ve heard a bit about System76—how does it compare to Framework? Is the quality better?
I think with Framework, you have the AMD ST and/or Intel ME, which you can’t disable. Since System76 has Intel CPUs almost exclusively, they’re Corebooted and have ME disabled.
I didn’t know that, thank you!