I’d be interested to know how well this works if there aren’t 3 (!) hotspots in 1 (!) room. If that is a hard requirement for it to work accurately, I don’t see many applications for this technology. At least not in its current version.
I agree although presumably when you add more devices and types of signal you can build a much richer picture without 3 access points.
For example, in my living room I have a cordless landline, Bluetooth soundbar speaker, WiFi access point, a fixed media box that uses WiFi. Presumably you could build a picture from the interference patterns of these different types of device, which are all on similar frequencies (2.4GHz ish).
Given that surveillance / phone cameras are ubiquitous, and it’s been possible to track people through cell tower triangulation / monitored WiFi hotspots for ages, does this really make things much worse than they already are?
Didn’t thermal goggles already do this? Seems to have an extraordinarily limited use case unless you live in a really big building with lots of routers.
If we ban it, the gov will use it anyway. I can’t believe people are still bringing kids in to this world. We are all severely fucked. Can you imagine how bad everyone’s anxiety will be with this shit everywhere? Maybe everyone will just ignore it like they do every time they use google or Facebook.
This kind of tech has been floating around the research world of smart home tech for over a decade now. Various forms of EM deflection and field deviation modeling have been used to be headcount sensors, gesture sensors, and body position modeling. Yup, it’s out there. Normally, it takes multiple antennas in particular positions to work, so it’s still a more controlled space kind of thing than the whole world. That said, it’s possible to do, so head’s up, we’re in for a rough ride going forward on the privacy and monitoring fronts.
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It’s a good time to invest in room-sized faraday cages.
Just wrap your house in 3 layers of sarking instead of one.
Tinfoil hat fixes this!
I don’t have any rights from a “Fourth amendment”
That’s okay. I’m not sure anyone actually has any 4th Amendment rights anymore.
Three Wi-Fi routers are placed in a room.I’d be interested to know how well this works if there aren’t 3 (!) hotspots in 1 (!) room. If that is a hard requirement for it to work accurately, I don’t see many applications for this technology. At least not in its current version.
I agree although presumably when you add more devices and types of signal you can build a much richer picture without 3 access points.
For example, in my living room I have a cordless landline, Bluetooth soundbar speaker, WiFi access point, a fixed media box that uses WiFi. Presumably you could build a picture from the interference patterns of these different types of device, which are all on similar frequencies (2.4GHz ish).
Research from a few years ago was able to measure gait (so a person’s height and build etc) from the wifi shadow of a single router.
I assume 3 is to get the super accurate placement.
Three compromised wifi devices.
Three APs in Lab conditions is the start.
Biometric pictures? A problem? How about a biometric wlan-snap?
Given that surveillance / phone cameras are ubiquitous, and it’s been possible to track people through cell tower triangulation / monitored WiFi hotspots for ages, does this really make things much worse than they already are?
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Didn’t thermal goggles already do this? Seems to have an extraordinarily limited use case unless you live in a really big building with lots of routers.
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If we ban it, the gov will use it anyway. I can’t believe people are still bringing kids in to this world. We are all severely fucked. Can you imagine how bad everyone’s anxiety will be with this shit everywhere? Maybe everyone will just ignore it like they do every time they use google or Facebook.
this is already what’s happening and why things like a genocide are sad yet “not important enough” to voters.
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This kind of tech has been floating around the research world of smart home tech for over a decade now. Various forms of EM deflection and field deviation modeling have been used to be headcount sensors, gesture sensors, and body position modeling. Yup, it’s out there. Normally, it takes multiple antennas in particular positions to work, so it’s still a more controlled space kind of thing than the whole world. That said, it’s possible to do, so head’s up, we’re in for a rough ride going forward on the privacy and monitoring fronts.
Here’s the original publication for those wanting more implementation details.
The original publication
I guess it’s time to paint the walls with RF shielding paint.
“Why doesn’t my cell phone work at your house?”
There’s no service at my house anyways. You have to walk up the driveway to maybe get one bar if it’s not raining.
Insulation, to stop the heat/cold, obviously
Doesn’t matter if they can just send the info through to fiber. Everything sucks monumentally more every day.