Should the world just throw away the billions of non-Pixel devices in use today?
And/or should everyone just give up on improving security at all for the vast majority of phone users who cannot afford Pixels, since they can’t ever be as secure as a Pixel?
Should the world just throw away the billions of non-Pixel devices in use today?
Why are you acting like GrapheneOS is the only custom ROM available? There are other GSIs and ROMs that non-Pixel users can use to keep their older phones going.
I didn’t say that they should be thrown away? I’m not sure where that came from.
I said that I would rather use something else that was designed without the hardware security features in mind. It’s all about your personal threat model, and mine does not align with this fork of Graphene. I’m either going to use something like Lineage which has at least been tested from a security standpoint (and does not have possible zero days because of patch working a ROM designed with specific hardware features not available on my device) or I’m going to get a used pixel and run Graphene. Even Calyx would be preferred to this once they start up development again.
I think they are frustrated at repeating themselves, as I’m sure you are.
I tend to agree that, even though the hardware security isn’t there, GrapheneOS has some good features that would make it an alternative for these devices. If your threat model doesn’t include eg: physical access to the device then it still has benefits.
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Should the world just throw away the billions of non-Pixel devices in use today?
And/or should everyone just give up on improving security at all for the vast majority of phone users who cannot afford Pixels, since they can’t ever be as secure as a Pixel?
Why are you acting like GrapheneOS is the only custom ROM available? There are other GSIs and ROMs that non-Pixel users can use to keep their older phones going.
I didn’t say that they should be thrown away? I’m not sure where that came from.
I said that I would rather use something else that was designed without the hardware security features in mind. It’s all about your personal threat model, and mine does not align with this fork of Graphene. I’m either going to use something like Lineage which has at least been tested from a security standpoint (and does not have possible zero days because of patch working a ROM designed with specific hardware features not available on my device) or I’m going to get a used pixel and run Graphene. Even Calyx would be preferred to this once they start up development again.
What’s with the hostility?
I think they are frustrated at repeating themselves, as I’m sure you are.
I tend to agree that, even though the hardware security isn’t there, GrapheneOS has some good features that would make it an alternative for these devices. If your threat model doesn’t include eg: physical access to the device then it still has benefits.