In 2025, around an additional 16,000 units of humanoid robots were installed worldwide, with China alone accounting for more than 80% of the installations.AGIBOT topped the global list of vendors with the highest number of annual humanoid robot installations, followed by Unitree, UBITECH, Leju and Tesla. The top five enterprises accounted for a 73% share.The cumulative installations of humanoid robots are projected to exceed 100,000 units by 2027.In terms of applications, logistics, manufacturing and automotive will represent 72% of the annual installations in 2027.Seoul, Beijing, Berlin, Buenos Aires, Fort Collins, Hong Kong, London, New Delhi, Taipei, Tokyo – Jan 14, 2025
I’m not aware of any country where there isn’t enough work to go around. And last I checked, China doesn’t have problems with homeless or unemployment. Socialism doesn’t require people to work for the sake of work. In a socialist system, if it ever gets to the point where there’s not enough work to go around the solution would be to reduce working hours.
China does have unemployment but it’s rare that it results in homelessness due to how cheap it is to live there. There’s also the fact that China has mandated plots of family land for every individual to prepare their own lodging on. I know a person that had their Hukou visa expire for a smaller regional city and they lived in a yurt in Inner Mongolia for a little while on their government mandated plot while they saved money to build a house on it. Not great, but it’s a place they are legally allowed to do such a thing for no cost. Each plot also already has electric and water hookups. If you really wanted to you could just vegetate on a little plot like that somewhere and grow your own food
China does have unemployment, but it doesn’t have an unemployment problem. Generally, people who are unemployed, are doing it by choice. Some people decide delaying joining the workforce because they want to get higher education, and they can be more picky about choosing jobs. Other people are between jobs. And the point you make regarding housing and access to basic necessities is the key part I think. This is basically what people advocate for in the west when they talk about basic income. It’s not the ideal lifestyle, but you’re not living on the street, and you have your needs met even if you aren’t working.
I think you should check again, seeing as China has unemployment issues. Something that is very well known and documented. Of course, that would mean you’d have to accept facts, and I think ML are incapable of that. Keep simping!
So you admit there is unemployment, how do you think other ML are going to react to that statement? Is there 5% homelessness too or are you too scared to talk about it now?
Anything between 4-6% is generally considered full employment by most countries, including the US. At that level the unemployment mostly consists of people between jobs, rather than people in long-term unemployment where they have no hope of finding work.
The homelessness number you’re referencing is misleading. They’re not unhoused, they’re living outside of their registered address. A day laborer that moves from city to city and stays in group homes is considered “homeless” but they’re not actually living on the street. Much of rural China has yet to be developed to a level that can sustain employment, so they have to migrate.
You don’t know me. I care about humanity. I don’t care to simp for any government on earth. So, sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t care.
And so you agree having AI robots take over manual labor jobs is a good thing. And, this would lead to AI taking over non-manual labor jobs—which is a good thing, right? Because when no one has any work to do… you firmly believe the people in power will just provide utopia for all…. Right? You agree? AI is good, and to you love it?
Do you want to work for a wage for the rest of your life simply to survive? I certainly don’t.
We have to be careful, because if the AI which automates our labor is owned privately then it will be used to eliminate our jobs and then eliminate the surplus population left behind. AI which is owned collectively, however, will liberate us from work.
We just have to get to that stage of collective ownership. China hasn’t reached that stage of socialist development but they’re closer than anyone else and seem to be progressing in that direction. Not that you care, you just want to pick fights.
Tell me, do you truly believe that the direction of the world right now is actually going towards utopia? You look around and you see this?
You’re a joke. You’re queer and you simp for a country who wouldn’t even let you marry. You’re a “communist” and you simp for a country with billionaires. You’re probably pro union, and you simp for AI taking over jobs. You probably love to quote facts and link to data, but you simp for a pipe dream AI utopia that is unlikely.
I’ll tag you so I remember to mock you if you ever make Luddite-like comments about AI. 💋
… you’re really proving my point. You don’t care about anything I have to say or any of the facts or data that I quote or link to, you just want to pick and win fights.
It doesn’t matter that I find the LLM bubble stupid and I don’t think we’re even close to AI replacing human labor, because I dared correct you about China. It doesn’t matter that I think China isn’t far enough along the path of socialist development for it to actually be a good thing when AI does replace human labor. It doesn’t matter that my support for China has a lot of caveats and criticisms, some of which do surround queer rights. None of that nuance matters, nothing I say matters, and nothing I believe matters.
All that matters is that I’m in the way and that you need to tear me down so you can win the posting RPG.
There will be a point where it can take our jobs, though. The question is if the AI be privately or collectively owned. If its privately owned, we’re fucked and we’re all going to be turned into paperclips. If its collectively owned then we can decide which jobs are eliminated and the people who have had their jobs eliminated can help decide what they get to do next, now that they’re free.
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I’m not aware of any country where there isn’t enough work to go around. And last I checked, China doesn’t have problems with homeless or unemployment. Socialism doesn’t require people to work for the sake of work. In a socialist system, if it ever gets to the point where there’s not enough work to go around the solution would be to reduce working hours.
China does have unemployment but it’s rare that it results in homelessness due to how cheap it is to live there. There’s also the fact that China has mandated plots of family land for every individual to prepare their own lodging on. I know a person that had their Hukou visa expire for a smaller regional city and they lived in a yurt in Inner Mongolia for a little while on their government mandated plot while they saved money to build a house on it. Not great, but it’s a place they are legally allowed to do such a thing for no cost. Each plot also already has electric and water hookups. If you really wanted to you could just vegetate on a little plot like that somewhere and grow your own food
China does have unemployment, but it doesn’t have an unemployment problem. Generally, people who are unemployed, are doing it by choice. Some people decide delaying joining the workforce because they want to get higher education, and they can be more picky about choosing jobs. Other people are between jobs. And the point you make regarding housing and access to basic necessities is the key part I think. This is basically what people advocate for in the west when they talk about basic income. It’s not the ideal lifestyle, but you’re not living on the street, and you have your needs met even if you aren’t working.
I think you should check again, seeing as China has unemployment issues. Something that is very well known and documented. Of course, that would mean you’d have to accept facts, and I think ML are incapable of that. Keep simping!
Source: it came to me in a dream.
As expected, lol. Thanks for admitting it at least.
Glad to admit that I know you’re full of shit.
lol. Fash
you didn’t have to spell it out for us, your comments have already made it crystal clear
lol. Nice try fash.
I’d be so insulted by that if I had a shred of respect for you.
It’s 5.1%
That’s considered pretty good in most countries.
So you admit there is unemployment, how do you think other ML are going to react to that statement? Is there 5% homelessness too or are you too scared to talk about it now?
USA is 4.3% ( if you trust that number)
Anything between 4-6% is generally considered full employment by most countries, including the US. At that level the unemployment mostly consists of people between jobs, rather than people in long-term unemployment where they have no hope of finding work.
The homelessness number you’re referencing is misleading. They’re not unhoused, they’re living outside of their registered address. A day laborer that moves from city to city and stays in group homes is considered “homeless” but they’re not actually living on the street. Much of rural China has yet to be developed to a level that can sustain employment, so they have to migrate.
Not that you care.
You don’t know me. I care about humanity. I don’t care to simp for any government on earth. So, sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t care.
And so you agree having AI robots take over manual labor jobs is a good thing. And, this would lead to AI taking over non-manual labor jobs—which is a good thing, right? Because when no one has any work to do… you firmly believe the people in power will just provide utopia for all…. Right? You agree? AI is good, and to you love it?
You can’t stop socialism.
You can’t stop AI.
We will win, and you can’t do anything about it except rage on the internet.
I WANT socialism lmfao. But you don’t support socialism. You support fascism.
You, the “I hate all countries” individualist, wants “socialism”, but without automation.
Is this that “fantasy utopia” you keep bringing up? Because it certainly doesn’t make sense in the real world.
And fascist? Really? Oh wait to a neoliberal like you that just means “bad foreigner who kill whitey”.
Do you want to work for a wage for the rest of your life simply to survive? I certainly don’t.
We have to be careful, because if the AI which automates our labor is owned privately then it will be used to eliminate our jobs and then eliminate the surplus population left behind. AI which is owned collectively, however, will liberate us from work.
We just have to get to that stage of collective ownership. China hasn’t reached that stage of socialist development but they’re closer than anyone else and seem to be progressing in that direction. Not that you care, you just want to pick fights.
Tell me, do you truly believe that the direction of the world right now is actually going towards utopia? You look around and you see this?
You’re a joke. You’re queer and you simp for a country who wouldn’t even let you marry. You’re a “communist” and you simp for a country with billionaires. You’re probably pro union, and you simp for AI taking over jobs. You probably love to quote facts and link to data, but you simp for a pipe dream AI utopia that is unlikely.
I’ll tag you so I remember to mock you if you ever make Luddite-like comments about AI. 💋
But hey, you got that fifty. Good job.
… you’re really proving my point. You don’t care about anything I have to say or any of the facts or data that I quote or link to, you just want to pick and win fights.
It doesn’t matter that I find the LLM bubble stupid and I don’t think we’re even close to AI replacing human labor, because I dared correct you about China. It doesn’t matter that I think China isn’t far enough along the path of socialist development for it to actually be a good thing when AI does replace human labor. It doesn’t matter that my support for China has a lot of caveats and criticisms, some of which do surround queer rights. None of that nuance matters, nothing I say matters, and nothing I believe matters.
All that matters is that I’m in the way and that you need to tear me down so you can win the posting RPG.
There will be a point where it can take our jobs, though. The question is if the AI be privately or collectively owned. If its privately owned, we’re fucked and we’re all going to be turned into paperclips. If its collectively owned then we can decide which jobs are eliminated and the people who have had their jobs eliminated can help decide what they get to do next, now that they’re free.