Matrix seems closer to me. XMPP has been ignored for 20 years. Fluxer might be good in a few months. Simplex is secure and fairly stable now but not a great discord replacement.
Personally I’ve had consistent problems with messages not un-encrypting in Matrix, requiring frequent re-sending of messages. I’m also not a fan of how much Metadata is shared across the Matrix network even with encryption, nor am I fan of the group who developed and funded it, or the willingness of the Matrix/Element team to sell their services to law enforcement.
Fluxer does indeed look very promising. If they can effectively pull off federation and encryption as the dev plans to do, I think that could be a great platform. Based on their more in-depth post about their background, they seem to have the talent to pull that off.
SimpleX I don’t have any experience with, though as you say, it’s covering a different use-case (I personally went with Deltachat for that type of app, which has been working really well).
Yeah matrix needs a refactor or fork. No good drop ins this month.
Simplex already has PQC enabled and makes metadata analysis a nightmare from a protocol level without Tor. Needs more optimization and super peers to fix a group delivery bug but surprisingly stable for something so new.
I wouldn’t really trust a refactor if it was from the Matrix team. An outside fork I’d be okay with, but it’d probably break compatibility to fix the problems I have with it, possibly introducing fragmentation, which could get dicey.
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Matrix seems closer to me. XMPP has been ignored for 20 years. Fluxer might be good in a few months. Simplex is secure and fairly stable now but not a great discord replacement.
Personally I’ve had consistent problems with messages not un-encrypting in Matrix, requiring frequent re-sending of messages. I’m also not a fan of how much Metadata is shared across the Matrix network even with encryption, nor am I fan of the group who developed and funded it, or the willingness of the Matrix/Element team to sell their services to law enforcement.
Fluxer does indeed look very promising. If they can effectively pull off federation and encryption as the dev plans to do, I think that could be a great platform. Based on their more in-depth post about their background, they seem to have the talent to pull that off.
SimpleX I don’t have any experience with, though as you say, it’s covering a different use-case (I personally went with Deltachat for that type of app, which has been working really well).
Yeah matrix needs a refactor or fork. No good drop ins this month.
Simplex already has PQC enabled and makes metadata analysis a nightmare from a protocol level without Tor. Needs more optimization and super peers to fix a group delivery bug but surprisingly stable for something so new.
https://simplex.chat/
I wouldn’t really trust a refactor if it was from the Matrix team. An outside fork I’d be okay with, but it’d probably break compatibility to fix the problems I have with it, possibly introducing fragmentation, which could get dicey.
I am 100% cool with a developer coup. The matrix devs are not serious people.