Oh, sure. Agreed that at the time the proton Linux ecosystem was pretty under developed.
But to be excited now about a windows handheld is a whole other story, specially because of the battery as stated.
Unless you want to play TFT on the handheld for some god forsake reason I see no point on it being windows. But I ditched widows for all my PCs and I’m very tech savvy so I’m biased.
Microsoft is likely to develop a stripped down version of Windows for those handhelds. Windows isn’t fundamentally incapable of low overhead and Xbox runs something similar.
As to why you’d want to use Windows even if you’re tech savvy there are loads of reasons:
Native access to other digital storefronts (Valve wants to lock you in with Steam Deck)
Microsoft treats backwards compatibility and long term support seriously, unlike Valve that has a history of abandoning things when they no longer found them immediately profitable
There are plenty of games with kernel-level anti-cheat that won’t work with Wine/Proton ever
Wine/Proton compatibility isn’t good enough to replace Windows
Valve pushes Proton so heavily that developers stopped creating native Linux ports so the above is unlikely to change anytime soon
But there are also good reasons to go with SD like very very good VRR screen utilisation (Xbox is also good at this so maybe there’s hope for Windows).
It’s kinda funny you mention all those points to me, when I’ve been gaming on Linux for about 3 years now. I play on steam, use heroic for gog games, play a lot of modded D2… All in Linux. Saying that Microsoft treats backwards compatibility and support when they are forcing everyone to either pay for win10 support or join the win11 spyware mafia is a ludicrous statement btw.
Games with kernel-level anticheat do work on Linux, if the anticheat provider has done the work. Right now, most don’t and actively stopped supporting Linux so saying that won’t work ever is kind of a stretch.
“Isn’t good enough to replace windows” - here I am playing Modded games, path of exile, ffxiv, other FF games, cyberpunk, all PC monster Hunter games… Your statement is false.
I see nothing wrong with using a compatibility layer, it does the work of retrocompatibility alongside separating game environments, which is good for security.
Saying that Microsoft treats backwards compatibility and support when they are forcing everyone to either pay for win10 support or join the win11 spyware mafia is a ludicrous statement btw.
What are you using as a benchmark? Is there any OS that supports hardware or software this long? Find an original Quake 3 Linux installer and see how that goes. Not sure what spyware has to do with that.
Games with kernel-level anticheat do work on Linux, if the anticheat provider has done the work. Right now, most don’t and actively stopped supporting Linux so saying that won’t work ever is kind of a stretch.
To an end user this is a Linux problem. Like, „Haiku OS can run all the games except developers don’t support it” won’t cut it as an explanation for why your games don’t work.
“Isn’t good enough to replace windows” - here I am playing Modded games, path of exile, ffxiv, other FF games, cyberpunk, all PC monster Hunter games… Your statement is false.
You’re playing some games. Same can be said about Switch yet everybody here acts like it is some huge failure.
I see nothing wrong with using a compatibility layer, it does the work of retrocompatibility alongside separating game environments, which is good for security.
It is reverse engineered and with the level of complexity of Windows and Windows being a moving target it will never get there 100%. You have to make a conscious choice to lose access to some of your games when moving from Windows, and possibly lose access to some games that worked on Linux previously after you moved.
You said that the kernel anticheat problem will never be solved, I challenged that, not that this is seen as a Linux problem for the end user or not.
I play all the games I want to play, no one wants to play all the games, there’s no physical time to do so.
Also, all of this is in the context of a tech savvy person. A tech savvy person can tweak almost all games to run properly nowadays… I do and I’m not THAT savvy.
Your not technical savy I guess.
It can run anything with some tinkering.
You can use steamdb to see what games need to install with proton or ask the developer of indie games what library they use on windows.
And there is solutions for everything.
I never meet a game wi can’t run (except when EA sabotaged their launcher to stop linux users)
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Oh, sure. Agreed that at the time the proton Linux ecosystem was pretty under developed.
But to be excited now about a windows handheld is a whole other story, specially because of the battery as stated.
Unless you want to play TFT on the handheld for some god forsake reason I see no point on it being windows. But I ditched widows for all my PCs and I’m very tech savvy so I’m biased.
Microsoft is likely to develop a stripped down version of Windows for those handhelds. Windows isn’t fundamentally incapable of low overhead and Xbox runs something similar.
As to why you’d want to use Windows even if you’re tech savvy there are loads of reasons:
But there are also good reasons to go with SD like very very good VRR screen utilisation (Xbox is also good at this so maybe there’s hope for Windows).
It’s kinda funny you mention all those points to me, when I’ve been gaming on Linux for about 3 years now. I play on steam, use heroic for gog games, play a lot of modded D2… All in Linux. Saying that Microsoft treats backwards compatibility and support when they are forcing everyone to either pay for win10 support or join the win11 spyware mafia is a ludicrous statement btw.
Games with kernel-level anticheat do work on Linux, if the anticheat provider has done the work. Right now, most don’t and actively stopped supporting Linux so saying that won’t work ever is kind of a stretch.
“Isn’t good enough to replace windows” - here I am playing Modded games, path of exile, ffxiv, other FF games, cyberpunk, all PC monster Hunter games… Your statement is false.
I see nothing wrong with using a compatibility layer, it does the work of retrocompatibility alongside separating game environments, which is good for security.
What are you using as a benchmark? Is there any OS that supports hardware or software this long? Find an original Quake 3 Linux installer and see how that goes. Not sure what spyware has to do with that.
To an end user this is a Linux problem. Like, „Haiku OS can run all the games except developers don’t support it” won’t cut it as an explanation for why your games don’t work.
You’re playing some games. Same can be said about Switch yet everybody here acts like it is some huge failure.
It is reverse engineered and with the level of complexity of Windows and Windows being a moving target it will never get there 100%. You have to make a conscious choice to lose access to some of your games when moving from Windows, and possibly lose access to some games that worked on Linux previously after you moved.
You said that the kernel anticheat problem will never be solved, I challenged that, not that this is seen as a Linux problem for the end user or not.
I play all the games I want to play, no one wants to play all the games, there’s no physical time to do so.
Also, all of this is in the context of a tech savvy person. A tech savvy person can tweak almost all games to run properly nowadays… I do and I’m not THAT savvy.
You know that I use Linux too and I know being able to run anything is just bs?
Your not technical savy I guess. It can run anything with some tinkering. You can use steamdb to see what games need to install with proton or ask the developer of indie games what library they use on windows. And there is solutions for everything. I never meet a game wi can’t run (except when EA sabotaged their launcher to stop linux users)
I appreciate your perseverance in the face of well sourced facts and that you did that without providing anything yourself.
I sée no source I give no source, why should o be the one doing the search to answer a windows troll ?
Never thought I’d downvote you
Never thought I’d give people a valid reason to.