The actual reason - if you are a person who cares about reasons - is that their opinions amount to ingroup-supremacist reactionary violence. These people reliably mumble that they’re ‘not against’ the barest recognition of ethnic, sexual, or cultural minorities, they’re just against it ‘when it’s forced.’ And then you press them the tiniest bit and find out they’ll call literally any inclusion ‘forced.’
Incel rhetoric didn’t cause mass shootings by accident. It’s the same emotionally-manipulative, grievance-driven, scapegoat-centric, cult-of-machismo bullshit that Eco described in Ur-Fascism, thirty-odd years ago. These people getting mad at video games are cut from that same mold. “Gamergate” in particular has demonstrable immediate ties to right-wing assholes making shit up to rattle a bunch of undersocialized young men into harassing women and minorities off the internet and into hiding.
Sometimes taking what seems like the right stand on an issue can deepen the harm - be careful about getting too extreme.
For example when the whole “gamergate” thing was going on and people were like “Why can’t I just enjoy Tomb Raider?” - one side was standing up for diversity and inclusion by denouncing them as basement-dwelling incels who should self-terminate. So that naturally drove some to those right-wing assholes.
Sometimes it takes a bit of work to change someone’s context so they can get closer to your perspective.
You also cannot say that everyone disagreeing with bad writing is one of the gamergate or right wing bastards.
Most people are just mad about bad writing in favor of “diversity”
Shure there are some assholes that are against diversity itself but they are a loud minority. Most are just against bad writing in favor of “diversity”.
Most are just against bad writing in favor of “diversity”.
But they seem to be so critical of “bad writing” that includes diversity, and seem to never talk about bad writing that doesn’t include diversity. If nothing else, it’s suspicious.
When you ruin a franchise in favor of a female protagonist mary sue people are mad. If you make something new that was shit from the beginning, nobody gives a fuck.
I think Star Wars was destined to be ruined by the time Disney bought it. Hell, people had been saying the franchise was dead since at least episode I…
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You can’t call everything faschism just because people have a different opinion…
I wish that was why.
Fuck me sideways, do I wish that was why.
The actual reason - if you are a person who cares about reasons - is that their opinions amount to ingroup-supremacist reactionary violence. These people reliably mumble that they’re ‘not against’ the barest recognition of ethnic, sexual, or cultural minorities, they’re just against it ‘when it’s forced.’ And then you press them the tiniest bit and find out they’ll call literally any inclusion ‘forced.’
Incel rhetoric didn’t cause mass shootings by accident. It’s the same emotionally-manipulative, grievance-driven, scapegoat-centric, cult-of-machismo bullshit that Eco described in Ur-Fascism, thirty-odd years ago. These people getting mad at video games are cut from that same mold. “Gamergate” in particular has demonstrable immediate ties to right-wing assholes making shit up to rattle a bunch of undersocialized young men into harassing women and minorities off the internet and into hiding.
Sometimes taking what seems like the right stand on an issue can deepen the harm - be careful about getting too extreme.
For example when the whole “gamergate” thing was going on and people were like “Why can’t I just enjoy Tomb Raider?” - one side was standing up for diversity and inclusion by denouncing them as basement-dwelling incels who should self-terminate. So that naturally drove some to those right-wing assholes.
Sometimes it takes a bit of work to change someone’s context so they can get closer to your perspective.
You can’t reason someone out of an opinion they didn’t reason themselves into.
Exceptionally well written explanation. Thanks! :)
You also cannot say that everyone disagreeing with bad writing is one of the gamergate or right wing bastards.
Most people are just mad about bad writing in favor of “diversity”
Shure there are some assholes that are against diversity itself but they are a loud minority. Most are just against bad writing in favor of “diversity”.
But they seem to be so critical of “bad writing” that includes diversity, and seem to never talk about bad writing that doesn’t include diversity. If nothing else, it’s suspicious.
When you ruin a franchise in favor of a female protagonist mary sue people are mad. If you make something new that was shit from the beginning, nobody gives a fuck.
(see Starwars…)
Did having a female protagonist ruin Star Wars?
I think Star Wars was destined to be ruined by the time Disney bought it. Hell, people had been saying the franchise was dead since at least episode I…
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