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Matches for Aug 17, 2023
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15 matches today. Times in UTC ### Brazil - Serie B Londrina EC vs Atletico GO - 18.08.2023 00:00 Vila Nova vs Mirassol - 18.08.2023 02:30 ### INT - Europa League Qualification HJK vs Qarabag FK - 17.08.2023 18:00 Häcken vs Zalgiris Vilnius - 17.08.2023 19:00 Breidablik vs Zrinjski Mostar - 17.08.2023 19:30 BATE Borisov vs FC Sheriff - 17.08.2023 20:00 Genk vs Olympiacos - 17.08.2023 20:00 Ludogorets Razgrad vs FC Astana - 17.08.2023 20:00 SC Dnipro-1 vs Slavia Prague - 17.08.2023 20:00 ### Iran - Persian Gulf Pro League Esteghlal vs Malavan - 17.08.2023 18:00 ### Mexico - Liga MX Apertura Monterrey vs Tijuana - 18.08.2023 01:00 ### Mexico - Liga de Expansion MX Apertura UDG vs Venados - 18.08.2023 01:05 ### Russia - Second League Division A Silver Group First Stage Chertanovo Moscow vs Tekstilshchik - 17.08.2023 16:00 ### Saudi Arabia - Saudi Professional League Damac FC vs Al Riyadh - 17.08.2023 17:00 Al Khaleej vs Al Ahli - 17.08.2023 20:00 Data from fotmob.com
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With a 10:3 ratio in support for migrating the community off of lemmy.world as suggested by [@[email protected]](https://sopuli.xyz/u/Blaze) in this [post](https://lemmy.world/post/22907596), we will run a trial period of migrating the community over to [[email protected]](https://lemm.ee/c/football) ### Trial period We will run a trial period of 2 months on lemm.ee to see how stable the instance is. Since all of you who discussed potential instances only had good things to say about the instance, expect the trial period to just be formality though. ### Locking down [email protected] The FootballAutoMod has been configured to automatically lock down any new posts and tell the posters to repost in the new community. While I could lock the community completely, I think this solution might help inform those of you who maybe don't check in on the community regularly. ### Why lemm.ee It's a moderately large EU-based instance with little to no drama as far as I know. The admin team seems to be competent and maintains a neutral stance with few defederations across the fediverse. The instance also got multiple recommendations amongst our users.
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Matches for Aug 30, 2023
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52 matches today. Times in UTC ### Argentina - Cup Talleres vs Colon - 30.08.2023 19:00 Argentinos Juniors vs San Martin San Juan - 30.08.2023 21:15 San Lorenzo vs Belgrano - 30.08.2023 23:30 ### Brazil - Serie B Novorizontino vs Ituano FC - 31.08.2023 00:00 ### England - EFL Cup Chelsea vs Wimbledon - 30.08.2023 20:45 Harrogate Town vs Blackburn - 30.08.2023 20:45 Nottm Forest vs Burnley - 30.08.2023 20:45 Sheff Utd vs Lincoln - 30.08.2023 20:45 Doncaster vs Everton - 30.08.2023 21:00 ### Finland - Veikkausliiga FC Lahti vs FC Inter Turku - 30.08.2023 17:00 ### Germany - Regionalliga Southwest FCA Walldorf vs FSV Frankfurt - 30.08.2023 19:00 Hessen Kassel vs Eintracht Frankfurt II - 30.08.2023 19:00 TuS Koblenz vs Hoffenheim II - 30.08.2023 19:00 ### INT - Champions League Qualification AEK Athens vs Royal Antwerp - 30.08.2023 21:00 FC København vs Rakow Czestochowa - 30.08.2023 21:00 PSV Eindhoven vs Rangers - 30.08.2023 21:00 ### Iceland - Besta deildin FH Hafnarfjordur vs KA Akureyri - 30.08.2023 19:30 ### Iran - Persian Gulf Pro League Zob Ahan vs Havadar SC - 30.08.2023 18:00 Aluminium vs Shams Azar - 30.08.2023 18:30 Foolad vs Persepolis - 30.08.2023 20:00 ### Italy - Serie B Bari vs Cittadella - 30.08.2023 20:30 Catanzaro vs Spezia - 30.08.2023 20:30 Sampdoria vs Venezia - 30.08.2023 20:30 Ternana vs Cremonese - 30.08.2023 20:30 ### Mexico - Liga MX Apertura Toluca vs Monterrey - 31.08.2023 03:00 Querétaro vs Atlas - 31.08.2023 03:06 Tigres vs Santos - 31.08.2023 05:00 ### Mexico - Liga de Expansion MX Apertura Tepatitlan FC vs Cancun FC - 31.08.2023 01:00 Tlaxcala FC vs Celaya - 31.08.2023 03:05 Atletico La Paz vs Cimarrones - 31.08.2023 05:05 ### Poland - Ekstraklasa Pogon Szczecin vs Slask Wroclaw - 30.08.2023 18:30 ### Russia - Cup Grp. A Sochi vs CSKA - 30.08.2023 16:15 ### Russia - Cup Grp. B Rostov vs Lokomotiv - 30.08.2023 18:30 ### Russia - Cup Grp. C Akhmat vs Krylya Sovetov - 30.08.2023 16:15 Baltika vs Zenit - 30.08.2023 18:30 ### United States - Major League Soccer Atlanta United vs Cincinnati - 31.08.2023 01:30 Charlotte FC vs Orlando - 31.08.2023 01:30 Inter Miami CF vs Nashville SC - 31.08.2023 01:30 New England vs NY Red Bulls - 31.08.2023 01:30 NYCFC vs Montreal - 31.08.2023 01:30 Toronto vs Philadelphia - 31.08.2023 01:30 Austin FC vs Seattle Sounders - 31.08.2023 02:30 Chicago vs Vancouver - 31.08.2023 02:30 Houston vs Columbus - 31.08.2023 02:30 Minnesota vs Colorado - 31.08.2023 02:30 St. Louis City vs Dallas - 31.08.2023 02:30 Portland vs Salt Lake - 31.08.2023 04:30 San Jose vs LA Galaxy - 31.08.2023 04:30 ### United States - USL Championship Rio Grande Valley FC vs San Antonio FC - 31.08.2023 02:00 New Mexico United vs Las Vegas Lights FC - 31.08.2023 03:00 Phoenix Rising FC vs Sacramento Republic FC - 31.08.2023 04:30 ### United States - USL League One Richmond Kickers vs Central Valley Fuego FC - 31.08.2023 01:00 Data from fotmob.com
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Weekly Discussion Thread [2024 Week 41]
This is the weekly discussion thread for all things loosely related to football that may not warrant its own post.
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[✅️FT] AC Milan 1-3 Liverpool
### Goals **AC Milan:** Christian Pulisic (3') **Liverpool:** Ibrahima Konaté (23'), Virgil van Dijk (41'), Dominik Szoboszlai (67') *** **Competition:** UEFA Champions League **Kickoff:** 19:00+UTC **Venue:** Stadio Giuseppe Meazza - Milano Italy **Head referee:** Espen Eskas *** **AC Milan form [old → recent]:** ✅️➖️❌️➖️✅️ **Liverpool form [old → recent]:** ➖️✅️✅️✅️❌️ **Head to head [recent → old]:** (MIL-LIV): 1-4, 1-2, 2-3, 0-2, 0-2 *** ### Lineups **AC Milan 4-2-3-1:** ~~``Mike Maignan(16)``~~ ⇆ `Lorenzo Torriani(96)` - `Strahinja Pavlovic(31)` - ~~``Fikayo Tomori(23)``~~ ⇆ `Matteo Gabbia(46)` - `Theo Hernández(19)` - ~~``Davide Calabria(2)🟨``~~ ⇆ `Emerson Royal(22)` - `Tijjani Reijnders(14)` - ~~``Ruben Loftus-Cheek(8)``~~ ⇆ `Tammy Abraham(90)` - `Youssouf Fofana(29)🟨` - ~~``Álvaro Morata(7)``~~ ⇆ `Noah Okafor(17)` - `Rafael Leão(10)` - `Christian Pulisic(11)⚽️` **Bench:** Lapo Nava - Samuel Chukwueze - Davide Bartesaghi - Yunus Musah - Filippo Terracciano - Kevin Zeroli - ~~Tammy Abraham~~ - ~~Lorenzo Torriani~~ - ~~Emerson Royal~~ - ~~Noah Okafor~~ - ~~Matteo Gabbia~~ **Liverpool 4-2-3-1:** `Alisson Becker(1)` - `Virgil van Dijk(4)⚽️` - `Ibrahima Konaté(5)⚽️🟨` - `Kostas Tsimikas(21)` - ~~``Trent Alexander-Arnold(66)``~~ ⇆ `Joe Gomez(2)` - `Dominik Szoboszlai(8)⚽️` - ~~``Alexis Mac Allister(10)🟨``~~ ⇆ `Wataru Endo(3)` - `Ryan Gravenberch(38)` - ~~``Diogo Jota(20)``~~ ⇆ `Darwin Núñez(9)` - ~~``Cody Gakpo(18)``~~ ⇆ `Luis Díaz(7)` - ~~``Mohamed Salah(11)``~~ ⇆ `Federico Chiesa(14)` **Bench:** Jarell Quansah - Curtis Jones - Conor Bradley - Vitezslav Jaros - Caoimhín Kelleher - Andrew Robertson - Tyler Morton - ~~Darwin Núñez~~ - ~~Wataru Endo~~ - ~~Luis Díaz~~ - ~~Joe Gomez~~ - ~~Federico Chiesa~~ *** ### Match Stats **Possession:** 49%🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴51% **Shots On Goal:** 2 - 11 **Shots Attempted:** 8 - 23 **Fouls:** 9 - 12 **Yellow Cards:** 2 - 2 **Red Cards:** 0 - 0 **Corners:** 2 - 5 **Saves:** 8 - 1 *** ### Match Events **Lineups are announced and players are warming up.** **First Half begins.** `2'` - Offside, AC Milan. Tijjani Reijnders is caught offside. `3'` - ⚽️ Goal! AC Milan 1, Liverpool 0. Christian Pulisic (AC Milan) right footed shot from the right side of the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Álvaro Morata. `5'` - Delay in match because of an injury Mike Maignan (AC Milan). `7'` - Delay over. They are ready to continue. `8'` - Foul by Ryan Gravenberch (Liverpool). `8'` - Theo Hernández (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `8'` - Foul by Tijjani Reijnders (AC Milan). `8'` - Ryan Gravenberch (Liverpool) wins a free kick on the right wing. `14'` - Attempt blocked. Tijjani Reijnders (AC Milan) left footed shot from the right side of the box is blocked. Assisted by Davide Calabria. `14'` - Offside, AC Milan. Davide Calabria is caught offside. `17'` - Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) hits the bar with a right footed shot from the right side of the box. Assisted by Diogo Jota. `17'` - Attempt missed. Kostas Tsimikas (Liverpool) right footed shot from the centre of the box is high and wide to the right. Assisted by Cody Gakpo. `18'` - Foul by Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool). `18'` - Álvaro Morata (AC Milan) wins a free kick on the right wing. `22'` - Cody Gakpo (Liverpool) wins a free kick on the left wing. `22'` - Foul by Davide Calabria (AC Milan). `22'` - 🟨 Davide Calabria (AC Milan) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. `23'` - Goal! AC Milan 1, Liverpool 1. Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool) header from very close range to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Trent Alexander-Arnold with a cross following a set piece situation. `26'` - Attempt missed. Diogo Jota (Liverpool) left footed shot from the centre of the box is close, but misses to the left. Assisted by Alexis Mac Allister. `27'` - Attempt saved. Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) left footed shot from the right side of the box is saved in the bottom right corner. Assisted by Trent Alexander-Arnold. `30'` - Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) hits the bar with a left footed shot from the centre of the box. `30'` - Foul by Diogo Jota (Liverpool). `30'` - Theo Hernández (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `31'` - Foul by Youssouf Fofana (AC Milan). `31'` - Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the attacking half. `31'` - 🟨 Youssouf Fofana (AC Milan) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. `32'` - Attempt blocked. Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box is blocked. `34'` - Corner, Liverpool. Conceded by Fikayo Tomori. `37'` - Delay in match because of an injury Mike Maignan (AC Milan). `38'` - Delay over. They are ready to continue. `39'` - Attempt saved. Cody Gakpo (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box is saved in the bottom left corner. Assisted by Kostas Tsimikas. `40'` - Attempt saved. Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) left footed shot from the centre of the box is saved in the bottom right corner. Assisted by Diogo Jota. `40'` - Corner, Liverpool. Conceded by Mike Maignan. `41'` - Goal! AC Milan 1, Liverpool 2. Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool) header from very close range to the top right corner. Assisted by Kostas Tsimikas with a cross following a corner. `43'` - Attempt missed. Kostas Tsimikas (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box misses to the left. `45'` - Fourth official has announced 5 minutes of added time. `45'+3'` - Delay in match (Liverpool). `45'+3'` - Delay over. They are ready to continue. `45'+4'` - Attempt saved. Cody Gakpo (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box is saved in the centre of the goal. Assisted by Trent Alexander-Arnold. `45'+4'` - Corner, Liverpool. Conceded by Mike Maignan. `45'+4'` - Offside, Liverpool. Diogo Jota is caught offside. `45'+5'` - First Half ends, AC Milan 1, Liverpool 2. `45'` - Second Half begins AC Milan 1, Liverpool 2. `48'` - Attempt blocked. Cody Gakpo (Liverpool) right footed shot from the centre of the box is blocked. Assisted by Trent Alexander-Arnold. `48'` - Attempt saved. Diogo Jota (Liverpool) right footed shot from the centre of the box is saved in the centre of the goal. `48'` - Foul by Diogo Jota (Liverpool). `48'` - Mike Maignan (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `49'` - Delay in match because of an injury Mike Maignan (AC Milan). `51'` - Delay over. They are ready to continue. `51'` - 🔄 Substitution, AC Milan. Lorenzo Torriani replaces Mike Maignan because of an injury. `53'` - Foul by Alexis Mac Allister (Liverpool). `53'` - Youssouf Fofana (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the attacking half. `53'` - 🟨 Alexis Mac Allister (Liverpool) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. `55'` - Offside, AC Milan. Rafael Leão is caught offside. `56'` - Offside, Liverpool. Kostas Tsimikas is caught offside. `57'` - Attempt saved. Dominik Szoboszlai (Liverpool) left footed shot from the centre of the box is saved in the centre of the goal. `59'` - Hand ball by Álvaro Morata (AC Milan). `63'` - Foul by Diogo Jota (Liverpool). `63'` - Theo Hernández (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `64'` - Attempt saved. Dominik Szoboszlai (Liverpool) right footed shot from a difficult angle on the left is saved in the centre of the goal. Assisted by Alexis Mac Allister. `64'` - Attempt missed. Kostas Tsimikas (Liverpool) left footed shot from the left side of the box misses to the right. Assisted by Dominik Szoboszlai. `65'` - Christian Pulisic (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the attacking half. `65'` - Foul by Kostas Tsimikas (Liverpool). `67'` - ⚽️ Goal! AC Milan 1, Liverpool 3. Dominik Szoboszlai (Liverpool) right footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Cody Gakpo following a fast break. `68'` - 🔄 Substitution, Liverpool. Luis Díaz replaces Cody Gakpo. `68'` - 🔄 Substitution, Liverpool. Darwin Núñez replaces Diogo Jota. `69'` - Delay in match because of an injury Davide Calabria (AC Milan). `70'` - 🔄 Substitution, AC Milan. Tammy Abraham replaces Ruben Loftus-Cheek. `70'` - 🔄 Substitution, AC Milan. Emerson Royal replaces Davide Calabria because of an injury. `70'` - Delay over. They are ready to continue. `71'` - Foul by Ryan Gravenberch (Liverpool). `71'` - Álvaro Morata (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `71'` - Emerson Royal (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `71'` - Foul by Luis Díaz (Liverpool). `73'` - Corner, AC Milan. Conceded by Ryan Gravenberch. `74'` - Attempt missed. Tijjani Reijnders (AC Milan) right footed shot from outside the box is high and wide to the right. Assisted by Christian Pulisic following a corner. `74'` - Foul by Tammy Abraham (AC Milan). `74'` - Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `75'` - Corner, Liverpool. Conceded by Theo Hernández. `75'` - Attempt missed. Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool) header from the centre of the box is too high. Assisted by Kostas Tsimikas with a cross following a corner. `77'` - Attempt blocked. Darwin Núñez (Liverpool) right footed shot from outside the box is blocked. Assisted by Mohamed Salah. `77'` - Corner, Liverpool. Conceded by Fikayo Tomori. `79'` - Foul by Álvaro Morata (AC Milan). `79'` - Kostas Tsimikas (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `79'` - 🔄 Substitution, Liverpool. Joe Gomez replaces Trent Alexander-Arnold. `80'` - Foul by Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool). `80'` - Tammy Abraham (AC Milan) wins a free kick on the left wing. `80'` - 🟨 Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. `83'` - Offside, Liverpool. Dominik Szoboszlai is caught offside. `84'` - 🔄 Substitution, AC Milan. Noah Okafor replaces Álvaro Morata. `84'` - 🔄 Substitution, AC Milan. Matteo Gabbia replaces Fikayo Tomori. `84'` - Foul by Rafael Leão (AC Milan). `84'` - Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `85'` - Attempt blocked. Tijjani Reijnders (AC Milan) right footed shot from the centre of the box is blocked. `85'` - Attempt missed. Theo Hernández (AC Milan) left footed shot from outside the box misses to the right. `86'` - Offside, Liverpool. Darwin Núñez is caught offside. `88'` - Corner, AC Milan. Conceded by Joe Gomez. `88'` - Attempt missed. Matteo Gabbia (AC Milan) header from the centre of the box is high and wide to the right. Assisted by Theo Hernández with a cross following a corner. `89'` - Dangerous play by Emerson Royal (AC Milan). `89'` - Darwin Núñez (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `90'` - Emerson Royal (AC Milan) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `90'` - Foul by Alexis Mac Allister (Liverpool). `90'` - Fourth official has announced 6 minutes of added time. `90'` - Attempt blocked. Mohamed Salah (Liverpool) left footed shot from the right side of the box is blocked. Assisted by Darwin Núñez. `90'+1'` - Attempt missed. Kostas Tsimikas (Liverpool) left footed shot from outside the box is high and wide to the right. Assisted by Alexis Mac Allister. `90'+2'` - Foul by Rafael Leão (AC Milan). `90'+2'` - Ryan Gravenberch (Liverpool) wins a free kick in the defensive half. `90'+3'` - 🔄 Substitution, Liverpool. Federico Chiesa replaces Mohamed Salah. `90'+3'` - 🔄 Substitution, Liverpool. Wataru Endo replaces Alexis Mac Allister. `90'+4'` - Foul by Wataru Endo (Liverpool). `90'+4'` - Tammy Abraham (AC Milan) wins a free kick on the right wing. `90'+4'` - Attempt missed. Matteo Gabbia (AC Milan) header from the centre of the box misses to the left. Assisted by Christian Pulisic with a cross following a set piece situation. `90'+5'` - Attempt saved. Darwin Núñez (Liverpool) right footed shot from a difficult angle on the left is saved in the bottom left corner. `90'+6'` - Delay in match (AC Milan). `90'+6'` - Delay over. They are ready to continue. `90'+7'` - Attempt saved. Rafael Leão (AC Milan) right footed shot from the left side of the box is saved in the top left corner. Assisted by Tijjani Reijnders. `90'+7'` - Second Half ends, AC Milan 1, Liverpool 3. *** Generated by [lemmy-match-thread-bot](https://gitlab.com/UlrikHD/lemmy-match-thread-bot)
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[Fabrizio Romano] Jeremy Doku to Manchester City, here we go!
Verbal agreement in place after new bid revealed here this morning — worth €60m package 🚨🔵 #MCFC Medical tests being scheduled later this week, personal terms agreed on long term deal. Exclusive story revealed August 1, confirmed.
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Post Match Thread: Poland 1-0 Germany | International Friendly
Poland 1-0 Germany Poland scorers: Jakub Kiwior (31') Germany scorers: Venue: Stadion Narodowy, Warsaw, Poland LINE-UPS Poland Szczesny - Bereszynski, Kiwior, Bednarek, Kedziora - Kaminski, Zielinski, Szymanski, Szymanski, Blaszczykowski - Lewandowski. Subs: Skorupski, Dragowski, Wisniewski, Wieteska, Frankowski, Zalewski, Bielik, Linetty, Skoras, Slisz, Lederman, Legowski, Milik. ____________________________ Germany Ter Stegen - Rüdiger, Thiaw, Kehrer - Kimmich, Wirtz, Henrichs, Can, Hofmann - Havertz, Musiala. Subs: Trapp, Leno, Raum, Ginter, Schlotterbeck, Gosens, Wolf, Goretzka, Brandt, Gündogan, Füllkrug, Sané. (Shamelessly from u/suedney's post on r/soccer)
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[Discussion] Ange Postecoglu at Spurs (and Maddison, and Vicario)
Between Postecoglou, Maddison, and Vicario, it looks like Spurs are actually cooking for a change. They also just properly signed Kulusevski. During the managerial mess, I was super on board the Nagelsmann train, and when that fell through, I really got on board the Slot train the more I read about him. I never took the Big Ange possibility seriously. Over the few weeks since Postecoglou’s announcement, I’m actually optimistic about this cursed club again. All the players and coaching staff gushing over him, all the trophy photos. The man’s mentality and passion are incredible, especially when contrasted with the negative associations that come with the club. I’m also excited to see what that means for Ryan Mason. I want to see fun football, and I want to see it done by teams that aren’t a feel-good propaganda arm of an oil kingdom. I’d usually turn to /r/coys to have (or rather, to skim) this discussion, but I don’t plan on visiting any /r/ for a while
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Granit Xhaka officially joins Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Y'all better take care of him and play him properly
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[Fabrizio Romano] João Félix and João Cancelo will both join Barcelona.
Cancelo deal has also been completed on straight loan from Manchester City. 🚨🔵🔴 #FCB ⛔️ NO buy option in both deals due to Financial Fair Play. Cancelo and Félix, Barça players soon.
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Sandro Tonali to Newcastle for €70m + 5m in bonus. [Daniele Longo]
Player has been offered a contract until 2029 for 7,5m/year + bonuses as well.
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How the 2023-24 top leagues tables could change this gameweek
![Premier League gameweek 7](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f094273d-8189-46ec-8400-52d1038573e3.jpeg) ![La Liga gameweek 8](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/29a02194-dd3a-469c-a082-44bef27319ae.jpeg) ![Serie A gameweek 7](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7474813d-bc32-4d30-914b-2c81b392eaf1.jpeg) ![Bundesliga gameweek 6](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/613d8ca6-6a2e-4a9d-8283-42431845a46e.jpeg) ![Eredivisie gameweek 7](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a84e41c8-d772-49ed-85e9-efe2ee6479f6.jpeg) ![Ligue 1 gameweek 7](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4937fa0d-5784-4bb9-b0d2-92c5770cdae5.jpeg) ![Primeira Liga gameweek 7](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5babefd5-562a-4551-a9de-2f29c305d555.jpeg) ![Championship gameweek 9](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/26edd509-2f97-4bac-b81e-83173eb21e2f.jpeg) [Source](https://instagram.com/possible_tables?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
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cross-posted from: https://lazysoci.al/post/14340013 > Summary: > > This video talks about Manchester City taking legal action against the Premier League over financial rules. Manchester City argues that some of the Premier League's Financial rules, specifically the associated party transaction rules, are unlawful and incompatible with UK competition law. These rules require that any commercial deals a club signs with a company linked to its owners must be fair value. Manchester City believes that these rules are unlawful and could have serious ramifications for the future competitive balance of the Premier League. > > > > The hearing on these charges is set for November. However, Manchester City is arguing that if they win the case that starts next week, it would blow a hole in the Premier League's case at the hearing in November. This is because Manchester City would have successfully argued that the rules are unlawful. > > > > The video also talks about the bigger picture, which is an argument about ownership of Premier League clubs. There are two sides to this argument. One side argues that owners should be allowed to put in as much money as they want into their clubs. The other side argues that financial rules are necessary to maintain competitive balance. The video says that it will be interesting to see how this plays out, as some Premier League clubs are siding with the Premier League and others may want to get rid of the associated party transaction rules. > > > Original article: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/man-city-legal-action-premier-league-hearing-7k6r5glhq > > Full Article: > > Man City launch unprecedented legal action against Premier League > Matt Lawton > 15 - 18 minutes > > > > Manchester City have launched an unprecedented legal action against the Premier League in a move that has sparked civil war in English football’s top flight. > > > > The dispute, which has become a battle between the most powerful clubs in the country, will be settled after a two-week private arbitration hearing starting on Monday. > > > > The outcome could dramatically alter the landscape of the professional game and have a significant impact on a separate hearing set for November into City’s 115 alleged breaches of the Premier League’s regulations and financial rules. That hearing, expected to last six weeks, could lead to huge fines for the club owners and possibly even relegation for Pep Guardiola’s all-conquering side. > > > > At next week’s hearing, which has provoked bitter divisions between clubs, City will attempt to end the league’s Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules, which they claim are unlawful, and seek damages from the Premier League. > > > > Introduced in December 2021 in the wake of the Saudi-led takeover of Newcastle United, the rules are designed to maintain the competitiveness of the Premier League by preventing clubs from inflating commercial deals with companies linked to their owners. The rules dictate that such transactions have to be independently assessed to be of “fair market value” (FMV). > > > > But within a 165-page legal document City argue that they are the victims of “discrimination”, describing rules they say have been approved by their rivals to stifle their success on the pitch as a “tyranny of the majority”. > > > > If City are successful in their claim — and some rival clubs fear they will be — it could enable the richest clubs to value their sponsorship deals without independent assessment, vastly boosting the amount of money they can raise and therefore giving them far greater sums to spend on players. > > > > City have been dominant on the field during the past decade and have recently won their fourth Premier League title in a row > > > > City have been dominant on the field during the past decade and have recently won their fourth Premier League title in a row > > > > BRADLEY COLLYER/PA WIRE > > > > The league’s other 19 clubs have been invited to participate in the legal action and The Times understands between 10 and 12 have stepped forward, providing either witness statements or a letter detailing evidence in support of the Premier League’s defence against the claim. Those who have provided witness statements may be called by the tribunal to give evidence at the hearing. > > > > As well as the impact it could have on the Premier League as a competition, clubs fear City’s claim could also be key to the outcome of the hearing into their 115 alleged breaches between 2009 and 2023, with sponsorship deals funded by companies linked to Abu Dhabi central to the accusations against them. > > > > It has been alleged that City concealed payments made by their owner, Sheikh Mansour, through third parties and disguised them as sponsorship revenue. Even before the more recent moves by the Premier League to tighten regulation around APTs, there was a requirement under the league’s rules that related party transactions must be of fair market value. If such rules are now deemed unlawful, it could significantly strengthen City’s defence at the hearing later this year. City have denied any wrongdoing relating to the 115 charges. > > > > The Times can confirm that City carried out that threat, filing their claim on February 16, with the Premier League informing its member clubs in March that a date of June 10 had been set for the hearing. > > > > Erling Haaland is one of a series of high-profile moves made under City’s present ownership > > > > Erling Haaland is one of a series of high-profile moves made under City’s present ownership > > > > LUKE TAYLOR/SPLASH > > > > City are suing the Premier League for damages, while arguing that the league’s democratic system of requiring at least 14 clubs, or two thirds of those who vote, to implement rule changes gives the majority unacceptable levels of control. They accuse rival clubs of “discrimination against Gulf ownership”, citing the comments of one particular senior club executive. > > > > City argue that sponsors linked to club owners — City’s are in Abu Dhabi — should be allowed to determine how much they want to pay, regardless of independent valuation. Four of City’s top ten sponsors have ties to the United Arab Emirates, including their stadium and shirt sponsor, Etihad Airways. > > > > Newcastle, who are majority-owned by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, have a shirt sponsorship deal with Sela, a Saudi sports rights company. Chelsea have a shirt deal with Infinite Athlete, a leisure company which counts the joint-Chelsea owners Todd Boehly and Behdad Eghbali among its investors. > > > > While The Times knows of at least one club who have submitted a witness statement in support of City for next week’s arbitration hearing, sources believe more than half have sided with the Premier League. The Premier League invited clubs to submit their statements in a letter from their general counsel, Kevin Plumb, on March 1. > > > > Despite having just won a record fourth successive Premier League title, City claim rules introduced 2½ years ago are restrictive and anti-competitive. > > > > City are accusing rival clubs of “discrimination against Gulf ownership” > > > > City are accusing rival clubs of “discrimination against Gulf ownership” > > > > VICTORIA HAYDN/MANCHESTER CITY FC VIA GETTY IMAGES > > > > Their rivals believe that what City are doing will actually destroy the competitiveness of the world’s most popular league, allowing clubs with super-rich owners to spend unlimited amounts of money on their playing squads and infrastructure and nullify Financial Fair Play rules. > > > > Millions are being spent on legal fees to fight this case. One senior club source says the Premier League’s legal bill has more than quadrupled in the past year, from about £5million to more than £20million. They also point to the fact that since February the Premier League’s own legal department has been forced to shift its focus to this claim when it is also trying to prepare for the hearing into City’s 115 charges. “This is clearly a tactic,” the source said. > > > > City have certainly spared no expense in their potentially groundbreaking legal fight. They have appointed three KCs, with Lord Pannick supported by Paul Harris and Rob Williams. A fourth senior barrister who specialises in competition and regulatory law, David Gregory, is also on City’s team. > > > > In their claim, City are seeking “damages for the losses which it has incurred as a result of the unlawfulness of the FMV [fair market value] rules”, in particular for costs resulting from delays, sums they claim were not paid under agreed deals and additional costs, including the club’s inability to generate revenue from delayed or cancelled projects. This, clubs believe, could potentially amount to tens of millions. > > > > Newcastle are majority-owned by Saudi Arabia’s PIF and have a front-of-shirt sponsor with Sela, a Saudi sports rights company > > > > Newcastle are majority-owned by Saudi Arabia’s PIF and have a front-of-shirt sponsor with Sela, a Saudi sports rights company > > > > ANDREW KEARNS – CAMERASPORT VIA GETTY IMAGES > > > > Indeed, City’s claim says the club are seeking a split trial, with the first part focused on the APT rules followed by a second to then determine damages. > > > > In his letter to clubs on March 1, Plumb detailed the nature of City’s legal challenge under Section X of the Premier League rules. > > > > Plumb explained how the Premier League had to secure an order that enabled it to disclose the details of the arbitration to its member clubs and confirm that it was indeed City who had filed a claim. “The purpose of this letter is to provide those further details, within the bounds of the confidentiality of the proceedings, and to confirm the process by which any club may participate in the arbitration,” Plumb states. > > > > He explained to clubs the detail of City’s claim that the rules are contrary to the Competition Act 1998. > > > > Plumb then said the Premier League’s independent legal counsel believes the rules are compatible with English law and that they will fight the legal action. > > > > On February 26 a directions hearing in the arbitration took place, with the tribunal appointed to hear the case giving the Premier League permission to provide a redacted copy of City’s statement of claim to other clubs, because they may be affected by the outcome of the challenge. > > > > The tribunal set a date for the final hearing to take place from June 10 to June 21, with all witness statements due to be submitted by March 28 in line with the deadline for the Premier League’s statement of defence. > > > > Clubs were given the option of either intervening formally in the proceedings, upon receiving permission from the tribunal, or submitting factual evidence on relevant matters. > > > > Lord Pannick is representing the club in the case > > > > Lord Pannick is representing the club in the case > > > > AARON CHOWN/PA WIRE > > > > Within the City claim is a challenge to the voting system upon which the Premier League’s decision-making process has long been built, which requires two thirds of clubs to support a rule change. They say this allows a majority of clubs to exert a “tyranny” that damages the minority. > > > > City also claim the FMV rules are intended to be discriminatory towards clubs with ties to the Gulf region. > > > > The claim says the rules were imposed at the instigation of certain rival clubs reacting to the Saudi takeover of Newcastle, with the aim to “safeguard their own commercial advantages”. They say rivals were seeking to limit deals from companies in the Gulf region, citing a quote from a senior executive from another club. > > > > They claim the rules were “deliberately intended to stifle commercial freedoms of particular clubs in particular circumstances, and thus to restrict economic competition”. > > > > City also complain that, when it comes to negotiating any form of sponsorship agreement, clubs in the north are at a disadvantage to those in London, who, they say, can charge higher ticket prices. However, rival clubs estimate that, based on median ticket prices at the Etihad Stadium and the seven Premier League clubs in London, City are ranked third. > > > > City blame the Premier League for not regulating spending when clubs such as Manchester United were more dominant, arguing they have been prevented from monetising their brand in the way United did. City also say the rules penalise clubs who have “lower-profile sporting histories”. > > > > In their claim, City also dismiss concerns that an inflated sponsorship deal with a company linked to the club’s ownership could be vulnerable to a change of ownership. > > > > “There is no rational or logical connection between a club’s financial non-sustainability and its receipt of revenues from entities linked to ownerships,” City’s claim states. They say companies would honour sponsorships even if the club were sold to new owners. > > > > As one Premier League club source observed, this overlooks the fact it is common for sponsorship contracts to have clauses that mean the terms change under new ownership. > > > > City argue that the Premier League has failed to provide evidence that sponsorship deals with related parties give clubs an unfair advantage or distort the league’s competitive balance. > > > > They also say that the Premier League, as an organisation, is a direct competitor for sponsorship and therefore claim it has a conflict of interest. > > > > Further to that, City question the independence of Nielsen Sports, the data analytics company used to determine the fair market value of sponsorship deals, because it has been retained by the Premier League for more than two years. > > > > City complain that FMV rules discriminate against clubs who form part of a multiclub ownership group, and only apply to commercial deals and not shareholder loans. > > > > Ultimately, City stand accused of breaking financial rules to spend close to £2billion building a team who now dominate the Premier League and in the 2022-23 season won a European and domestic treble. > > > > In their claim, City argue that the present rules will limit their ability to buy the best players and force them to charge fans more for tickets. They say they may also have to cut spending on youth development, women’s football, and community programmes. > > > > Premier League clubs have a scheduled meeting in Harrogate on Thursday. > > > > Manchester City did not respond when contacted for comment. The Premier League has declined to comment. > Why are Manchester City taking action against the Premier League? > > > > They want Premier League rules for Associated Party Transactions (APT) scrapped, claiming they are unlawful. APT rules, which were introduced in December 2021 and tightened this year, cover sponsorship and commercial deals with companies connected to the clubs, as well as any player transfers between clubs in the same ownership group, to ensure they are of “fair market value”. If City succeed, any constraints over inflated sponsorship deals would be removed. Victory for City could also have a significant impact on their case concerning 115 Premier League charges for alleged breaches of Profit and Sustainability Rules. > What is an APT and why are they important? > > > > In England there are a number of examples of APTs. Newcastle have secured a £25million-a-year front-of-shirt deal with Saudi events company Sela since their Saudi-led takeover, while Chelsea have a shirt deal with Infinite Athlete, a leisure company that counts joint-Chelsea owners Todd Boehly and Behdad Eghbali among its investors. Four of City’s ten main sponsors have links to Abu Dhabi, including the shirt and stadium deals with Etihad Airways. > > > > Until December 2021, the Premier League only viewed commercial deals as “related party transactions” if they were described as such in clubs’ accounts — Manchester City did not declare sponsorship deals such as Etihad’s as related party transactions. The 2021 rules stated that if the Premier League’s board has reasonable grounds to suspect that it is an associated party deal then an independent firm will determine whether it is of fair market value. > > > > From this January, the Premier League made clubs liable to be charged with a breach of the rules if they do not “use all reasonable care” to ensure deals are of fair market value, with the burden of proof on the clubs to show they are. > > > > If constraints over APTs are removed, there are concerns that deals similar to the €200million-a-year deal between the Qatar Tourist Authority and Qatari-owned Paris Saint-Germain announced in 2014 — which Uefa later judged to be not of fair market value — could be replicated in England. > What are the 115 charges? > > > > Fifty-four concern a failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18. Fourteen are related to a failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18. Five concern a failure to comply with Uefa’s rules, including Financial Fair Play regulations, from 2013-14 to 2017-18. Seven are for breaching the Premier League’s PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18. 35 are for a failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations between December 2018 and February 2023. The allegations first surfaced because of leaked correspondence published by the German newspaper, Der Spiegel. City have always argued that the material was obtained illegally. > What does this mean for City’s charges? > > > > Significantly, next week’s private arbitration hearing comes before the independent hearing for City’s charges, which is due to start in November. Rival clubs are concerned that a successful claim against APT rules could strengthen City’s defence later in the year. It has been alleged that City concealed payments made by owner Sheikh Mansour’s Abu Dhabi United Group through third parties and disguised them as sponsorship revenue. If the tribunal concludes that Premier League rules around fair market value are unlawful — and such regulations existed even before more robust rules were introduced in 2021 — it could open the way for City to launch fresh challenges against the legality of the rules concerning the 115 charges.
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